Skype - Town Leader's Conference

[borka]

The biggest problem with conference is to keep the chatting low - if we really want it good we need to think about those that have to translate all said first!

[Amanda44]

The biggest problem with conference is to keep the chatting low - if we really want it good we need to think about those that have to translate all said first!

And not just those who have to translate! The whole reason I left IoB chat was having to sift through loads of rubbish in order to see if anything of interest or a trade topic had come up, mostly to be left wondering - 'why am I even in this chat?!'

As Borka says, if we want this to be successful we are going to have to stick to important issues and keep the chat in IoB or your own chats. I just logged on to 800 msgs, of which less than half were relevant to any kind of meaningful discussion.

That out of the way - it's good to see so many people interested though and great to have contact with other town and village leaders that you probably wouldn't have come across otherwise.

This was a great idea of Alays, lets make it mean something.

[Smurfette]

Please add me too.

[LadyGoo]

Can't see you adding my skype (alaygoo2). Could you PM me yours?

[Rejected_Logic]

So, joining in the conversation I asked a question about the public water hole experiment and was immediately "set to listeners" or muted. I stayed in the chat to catch up on politics and logged back into skype to catch up two days later. Literally every message on the board was removed, and the only thing that had been added was more "So-and-so has been added to listeners".

Is there a skype conversation where village leaders can actually talk with one another? I'd love to actually take part in one that isn't just the well-known players being allowed to talk with one another and village leaders just being allowed to watch.

[LadyGoo]

I apologize I misread your message. Probably I was in a rush I did not re-read it. You should of PM me about it, if it is something you really cared about. If you still feel like getting back, PM me.

As for others being set to listeners, they were put to ones for initiations any off-topics. Normally to be set to normal participants within 3 days.
Also, the erased messages before you left were something like 'Painhertz is #1 fag' which is not related to politics at all.

As for the conference being only for well known people to talk to each other, then I'd say that I do not know most of the people in the conference. Nor about their villages or etc. So it's a false assumption that anyone from an unknown village who speaks in it is to be set to listeners. Simply, anyone who would start any off-topic convo is to be in listeners. Setting to listeners everyone who is responding to the off-toper guy would be ridicilous.

So well, again, I apology. If you want to get back to the conference, just PM me, and I'll gladly add you back.

[Rejected_Logic]

I apologize I misread your message. Probably I was in a rush I did not re-read it. You should of PM me about it, if it is something you really cared about. If you still feel like getting back, PM me.

As for others being set to listeners, they were put to ones for initiations any off-topics. Normally to be set to normal participants within 3 days.
Also, the erased messages before you left were something like 'Painhertz is #1 fag' which is not related to politics at all.

As for the conference being only for well known people to talk to each other, then I'd say that I do not know most of the people in the conference. Nor about their villages or etc. So it's a false assumption that anyone from an unknown village who speaks in it is to be set to listeners. Simply, anyone who would start any off-topic convo is to be in listeners. Setting to listeners everyone who is responding to the off-toper guy would be ridicilous.

So well, again, I apology. If you want to get back to the conference, just PM me, and I'll gladly add you back.

Thanks for the clarification. I'll PM to get back in.

[LadyGoo]

bump

[Vaku]

Below is a comment that was made in the thread, "Who is LS of Lake Olympus?"

It is in response to the the justification for killing a former member of the village, Lake Olympus.

Melsonia was very successful in both w5 and w6 with the system and even Dis had the same system in a way
Without it you have a village of hermits

The statement quoted above is made in full agreement that by simply operating on an economic is fair enough an operation that it should be suited to supplant grief and idleness with cohesion and industry.

However this is not the case, as an economic system alone cannot achieve this for the community. It needs to be paired with leadership and understanding that spans the entire community.

What does not occur frequently enough, something that Melsonia has already done, is the explicit statement of what is expected of every member of that society. All over their website you can see what they are completely about. Every member joins knowing exactly what they must do, and have agreed to that purpose with complete trust and fealty to it.

Very few groups in HnH have made it a priority to create an honest and inert social contract that every member, if not a majority at the time of its creation, agrees to. Not doing so has caused an immense amount of grief in the past. This killing of LorD is only one example of what a proper social contract could prevent.

I suggest that all you leaders out there take it upon yourselves to discuss with your group members what you all truly stand for, put it in writing and have it be something that everyone can refer to should disagreements arise.

This is a plea to the incumbent leaders of the many groups in the Hearthlands, that you lead your party in some soul-searching that goes beyond economic policy, but rather digs into the heart of what matters and discuss the relation and obligations you have to one another. I'll reiterate, that you need put it in writing and leave it in public view so that you may source it.

It is by and large the greatest way to keep grief out of the community, not through the killing of former members as we saw happened in Lake Olympus.

Here is a link the the Melsonia Charter. It is an example of what I mean by put your obligations to each other it in writing: http://www.melsonia.com/charter.html

[jordancoles]

Melsonia killed many members of their Gulag and Rozn in w5