An interesting offer

[Sarge]

@ OP: I opened this thread for the first time a couple minute ago and thought I would start on this page to see if I can catch the gist of it and if it's worth the read. Well, here I am posting, so you can imagine I found it more than just worth the read. So, after flipping back to the start and reading all of it, here is what I have for you, if you are interested.

Firtsly, it will probably make sense for me to qualify myself for this to have context and meaning (except, I suspect you personally don't require as much). I have played this game as a noob hermit and a veteran hermit. I have belonged to and LS'ed noob villages. I have been a member of some of the most successful villages this game has seen.

The reason why I am taking the time to post here is because I genuinly enjoyed some of your posts in this thread. By what you have said and moreso, how you have said it, I gauge you to be decently intelligent. I suspect however that you now have your back up and it's not helping you read into the detail of some explanations. Since I'm not one of the guys that pissed you off, maybe allow me a moment before shutting off to what I'm saying, or get your defences up. I have no alterior motives here, I don't need to have any. I like you and would like to help you, simple as that.

Playing as a hermit can be great, I did so for a couple of months in W6. Probably noone even knew that. Other than that it gets lonely pretty quickly, it can quite simply not compete on any level with being part of a village. I would like to recommend that you give it a try, despite the fact that you have now found issue with it. Some of the things mentioned here are true, as rediculous as it sounds and I would like to use 'free food' as an example.

I agree whole-heartedly with you that to fill cupboards and cupboards of food is piss easy, no doubt. Villages (decent ones at least) do however not even keep foodstuffs like meat, carrots and chantrelles for consumption. Food in this game is NOT about survival. You seriously need to fuck up properly to actually starve. Food is about stats. Villages don't dable with base foods, everything is processed into higher tier FEP-rich foods and now it is a different ball game. To make cupboards and cupboards of processed food is a LOT of work and couple to that; Believe me when I tell you that it is MUCH easier and WAY faster to consume all of it than it is to make it. So when you ask for free food from a village they don't see you asking for some roasted beef, raw chicken and a handful of carrots, they see someone that they don't know (yet) 'insiting' on free food that was damn hard work, with the risk that the person could clean out a mansion of processed food in half a day if given access to, with a mere promise of their labour.

It would have been nice if someone actaully explained this to you in more detail other than 'free food? fuck you!'.

That is just one example and the message that I would actually like to bring accross to you is that at this stage you simply don't know what you don't know and you also don't know what you are missing yet. Village life is genuinly the way this game is meant to be played and is the case for by far the greater majority of players. I urge you to give it a go so that you can go see these things for yourself. There are so many things like the food example that you really only get to appreciate completely once you have been part of a decent (<- important) village, this I promise you.

[NOOBY93]

Sticking to the path of truth and not being tainted by emotion is intelligence.

lol no I'm pretty sure someone defined intelligence and this is not it. That is called APD or being a sociopath.

I stopped reading at "someone defined", I really should have stopped at "I'm pretty sure"

lol yeah intelligence is a number the spaghetti monster labeled us with for the lulz?
Of course ppl defined it. Anyway, emotion not affecting your judging skills or your decisions is definitely not intelligence, that's just retarded lol.
You shouldn't have stopped at "I'm pretty sure". You should've stopped when you were concieved

[Cranny]

Sarge, your explaning rocks.

When I read this post I had a bad feeling and reacted like: well... I will not answer.
After a day, re-reading, I thought, this person is not a child and is smart, is asking for what he/she really needs to succed in the game, I will answer.
Just now reading you I realized she/he does not know in depth what was asking for.

She/he said it:

... I must not be seeing the picture here...

I guess a lot of the answers on this thread come from the initial reaction (like my bad feeling), It would be nice if we let it die.

[Sarge]

Sarge, your explaning rocks.

Muchas gracias y bella dama

[petal]

@Sarge

I genuinely enjoyed reading your reply but unfortunately a few of the conclusions you draw isn't accurate. This isnt your fault because you didnt read the original post (now expired) which would have gave you a better judgement to my proposal and my understanding of the game.

Since I'm not one of the guys that pissed you off, maybe allow me a moment before shutting off to what I'm saying, or get your defences up.

This claim is baseless, there is nothing you can point to in this entire thread that would imply that I'm "pissed off" or being defensive. Maybe you are misinterpreting the difference between being defensive and defending oneself. Re read the whole thread, hardly anyone logically addressed the issues in the original topic and the ones that did discuss it ended up degenerating the topic even further. Literately the entire first page of posts is about steel, steel... one minor sub fragment of the entire conversation, which at best was just another filler reason, like boredom. Yet thats what the community felt needed the biggest confronting. Then there are guys like czaper2 who justify their entire existence by picking minor irrelevant wording alterations to correct (which everyone else in community understood exactly what I meant when I said "curio bar" and moved on with their life). That guy is almost as worst as the guy that goes around looking to help correct peoples "yours" and "youre" and feel self important about himself. They had an automated program called "spellchecker" that came on windows95 over 20 years ago that does that better. Please do something with your life czaper2 ,I couldn't even merit giving you a reply (I replied to every other person on this thread) but for the sake of this explanation we had to. My point is, I understand the internet, the majority of the time people arent trying to help, they are trying to feel self important, entertain themselves, troll, flame or just feel involved. So when people try to degenerate my thread my replies might seem defensive, but I cant see an incident that it wasnt merited. I gave intelligent reply to those that debated intelligently. The rest of your post wasnt new information to me regarding the speed boosting with high Q food and using the plow/drink method, that was my intention.

Players make this same proposal you did, and after they get in the village they disagree with LS policy, or have arguments with other villagers, or get raided, or a huge number of reasons, or simply get bored and quit, or move, or betray, and the whole village investment goes down the drain meanwhile the player has grown at its expenses.

I, for one, used to gear up in silk our new villagers, just got tired of feeling that I was asked to provide and after got not even a thank you in return.

This person nailed it. My mistake was expecting people to trust me without being known. but now I will make my own name.

lol yeah intelligence is a number the spaghetti monster labeled us with for the lulz?
Of course ppl defined it. Anyway, emotion not affecting your judging skills or your decisions is definitely not intelligence, that's just retarded lol.
You shouldn't have stopped at "I'm pretty sure". You should've stopped when you were concieved

What are you even saying?... You didnt even understand the flaw in your original post , why degenerate even further?

@Sarge (again)

There was a lot more I wanted to talk about like your opinion on villages, villagers, and hermitting in cross reference to mine but Its getting late and I want to stop wasting so much time writing replies..

[Eemerald]

Tbh, I have problems with both steel and silk, so I know how you feel, but with careful planning and alarms it is possible, lol, it's work that gets in the way more than sleep I find - or having to get up in time to refuel and then forgetting because my mind is on the day ahead.
It is satisfying though to make your first steel, just like all new finds and builds are.

DO IT!

Good luck with finding a village though.

I made silk before metal, it wasnt AS bad. If you mess up steel you can potentially lose 3 days, which is just a tad little bit more heartbreaking.

Well, you say that, but when you've had to restart silk from scratch three times in one world (!) and your 87q eggs are now 10q - you may feel differently, lol.

(This is when I thank all that is good for Em and Jordan, ).

But, yes, on the whole silk isn't as bad as losing the steel just before it's ready, which i've also done many times.

I never did the silk last world, just a small production, it was Thash who produced it. I just traded it:P

[Eemerald]

I haven't read the op, so this isn't realy a response to that, it's more a response to the man/woman power thing being a commodity in a town.

Players in a town either make or break your town. it's as simple as that.
Ppl think I'm picky when I recruit, and perhaps I ask and go through too much of a process when recruiting for my town but it's to ensure that the people who join fit into the culture of the town and respect the rules and gameplay as well as the other villagers who are there.
Payment for all players who work and respect the town is a safe environment (as much as possible), food, curios, equipment and other things, dependent on what the town is able to provide them. That is only fair.
If you can pick out people who play like you do, enjoy the environment you're in, enjoy the people theyre in a town with, and they work hard to make the town work, then they are entitled to whatever they need or want.

Ppl are what makes this game for me. I hermitted in world 4, and it was dull as hell. if it wasn't for my villagers the town would be a shit hole! and I'd be bored as anything. So I'm in agreement with the op on her statement about man/woman power, because good players who can fit into what you want from the game are difficult to find.

Anyhow...I need to sleep. good luck:)

[petal]

barely a week old into my solo hermit life, hardly played that much. Killed a bear and deer, ready to start a village claim soon. Heres some pics of my progress.

Am I doing it right?

[Eemerald]

its a good start

[NOOBY93]

You're not doing it right... Photobucket.
Also, your friend "Eve" is the exploration one, right? You need an exploration person. Preferably every person is an exploration person.