Divine Judgment: The Case of Willy Potter vs. Tartarus

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Re: Divine Judgment: The Case of Willy Potter vs. Tartarus

Postby ArvinJA » Tue Mar 29, 2016 12:44 pm

Sever wrote:
DDDsDD999 wrote:Image It's a fukken wizard's cap.

You know how memes are cool?

Me neither.

I hate memes tbh
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Re: Divine Judgment: The Case of Willy Potter vs. Tartarus

Postby Zeler » Tue Mar 29, 2016 1:20 pm

ArvinJA wrote:
Sever wrote:
DDDsDD999 wrote:Image It's a fukken wizard's cap.

You know how memes are cool?

Me neither.

I hate memes tbh


But you are a meme.
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Re: Divine Judgment: The Case of Willy Potter vs. Tartarus

Postby Onep » Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:21 pm

bmjclark wrote:Image


Why are you deleting your posts bragging about how you were going to bug raid Dole? Top scummers.
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We call it simply, Russian soul.”

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Re: Divine Judgment: The Case of Willy Potter vs. Tartarus

Postby Tonkyhonk » Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:45 pm

this is getting a real mess, jorb.

dis exploited the game mechanics and built unraidable village, and you supported it.
these guys exploited the game mechanics and raided a semi-inactive village with low security, and you allow others to bugraid them.
some kids bugraid someone else according to your "encouragement" and insist they thought it was the allowed party. although they are likely to be lying, you cant prove what are lies and whatnot, yet go on with punishment and promise some form of reimbursement.

now what?

would you at least change your mind and not officially "allow" people to bugraid, even if that is only limited for certain players of your choice? i can easily be the target of bugraiders if i were playing since people can always come up with whatever excuses they want and its not like the real justice can always be seen fairly enough. do you really think we can feel secure enough to play this game at this state now?
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Re: Divine Judgment: The Case of Willy Potter vs. Tartarus

Postby Delamore » Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:51 pm

Tonkyhonk wrote:this is getting a real mess, jorb.

dis exploited the game mechanics and built unraidable village, and you supported it.
these guys exploited the game mechanics and raided a semi-inactive village with low security, and you allow others to bugraid them.
some kids bugraid someone else according to your "encouragement" and insist they thought it was the allowed party. although they are likely to be lying, you cant prove what are lies and whatnot, yet go on with punishment and promise some form of reimbursement.

now what?

would you at least change your mind and not officially "allow" people to bugraid, even if that is only limited for certain players of your choice? i can easily be the target of bugraiders if i were playing since people can always come up with whatever excuses they want and its not like the real justice can always be seen fairly enough. do you really think we can feel secure enough to play this game at this state now?

Why do people keep bringing in DIS village into this? Bugraids have nothing to do with other bug abuse, because bug raids right up destroy the work and characters of other players while an unraidable village does not directly kill peoples characters and ruin their industry.
Also if the issues with their village defenses get patched out, it's gone and no damage done.
If a bug jump is patched after a bug raid, damage is done forever.
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Re: Divine Judgment: The Case of Willy Potter vs. Tartarus

Postby leanne69 » Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:54 pm

And, basically, it's not a bug. I bet everyone thought of using multiple village. I myself will do it.

And btw, it's not unraidable. Can still be rammed.

imo it's like saying multiple wall is a mechanic abuse... Bullshit.
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Re: Divine Judgment: The Case of Willy Potter vs. Tartarus

Postby pedorlee » Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:54 pm

Tonkyhonk wrote:this is getting a real mess, jorb.

dis exploited the game mechanics and built unraidable village, and you supported it.
these guys exploited the game mechanics and raided a semi-inactive village with low security, and you allow others to bugraid them.
some kids bugraid someone else according to your "encouragement" and insist they thought it was the allowed party. although they are likely to be lying, you cant prove what are lies and whatnot, yet go on with punishment and promise some form of reimbursement.

now what?

would you at least change your mind and not officially "allow" people to bugraid, even if that is only limited for certain players of your choice? i can easily be the target of bugraiders if i were playing since people can always come up with whatever excuses they want and its not like the real justice can always be seen fairly enough. do you really think we can feel secure enough to play this game at this state now?


What we have learned from last events are:

1. Bugraids are bad. Rules set that they will get divine punishment.
2. Clever use of mechanics are good because reasons and world isnt black and white. So if Odditown actions were "legal" Dis megashield is "legal".

We've got 2 different kind of actions from now on. Once a new mechanic is added, if you decide to exploit because you have discovered a clever way to circumvent it you are doing it right but if you abuse it in a glitchy way without telling devs before it you are getting a dick in your village.
More or less this is the explanation.

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Re: Divine Judgment: The Case of Willy Potter vs. Tartarus

Postby Tonkyhonk » Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:55 pm

Delamore wrote:Why do people keep bringing in DIS village into this? Bugraids have nothing to do with other bug abuse, because bug raids right up destroy the work and characters of other players while an unraidable village does not directly kill peoples characters and ruin their industry

because unraidable village is not an intended mechanic, i believe? if some players can play however they want and no consequences like others, whats the point of this game? i only brought that up as another inconsistency to the verdict of "exploit using the mechanic that cant be fixed".
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Re: Divine Judgment: The Case of Willy Potter vs. Tartarus

Postby Tonkyhonk » Wed Mar 30, 2016 8:58 pm

leanne69 wrote:And, basically, it's not a bug. I bet everyone thought of using multiple village. I myself will do it.

And btw, it's not unraidable. Can still be rammed.

imo it's like saying multiple wall is a mechanic abuse... Bullshit.

the same argument here, it was avoidable in this case too, you only had to off the charterstone spawn or build wall around it or close the gates.
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Re: Divine Judgment: The Case of Willy Potter vs. Tartarus

Postby leanne69 » Wed Mar 30, 2016 9:00 pm

Wrong topic * :P
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