Divine Judgment: The Case of overtyped vs 広島市

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Re: Divine Judgment: The Case of overtyped vs 広島市

Postby loftar » Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:51 pm

Sollar wrote:
jorb wrote: We will attempt to compensate overtyped in some reasonable way.

As someone who lost two characters in the wizards raid I feel entitled to request some reasonable compensation too.

By what similarity between the two cases do you feel this is a reasonable request?
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Re: Divine Judgment: The Case of overtyped vs 広島市

Postby Amanda44 » Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:53 pm

jorb wrote: We will attempt to compensate overtyped in some reasonable way.

I'm more interested in this ... but personally, I can see the differences and think your decision is pretty reflecting of the differences. Depending on the compensation, good call. :)
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Re: Divine Judgment: The Case of overtyped vs 広島市

Postby rye130 » Tue Mar 29, 2016 7:57 pm

Kaios wrote:so what exactly is Boshaw good for if you aren't using any of the scripts he implemented to do anything related to industry or farming


Our bots got broke by one of the updates and Boshaw hasn't bothered fixing them since he's working on a text client and generally enjoying his life in other ways besides working as a sweatshop client maker.
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Re: Divine Judgment: The Case of overtyped vs 広島市

Postby Kaios » Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:01 pm

boshaw wrote:but nothing will make me regret it, especially considering the effort we put into this game.


rye130 wrote:Our bots got broke by one of the updates and Boshaw hasn't bothered fixing them since he's working on a text client and generally enjoying his life in other ways besides working as a sweatshop client maker.


Okay, well stuff like that should factor in to their decision. We already knew the majority of players that spend their time destroying the work of others (or ruining the game for some players in other ways such as creating clients that give you an advantage in combat) don't actually put as much effort in to the game in terms of quality grind but it's nice to see someone admit it once in awhile.
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Re: Divine Judgment: The Case of overtyped vs 広島市

Postby Jeff » Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:16 pm

Calling a village Hiroshima and getting nuked is kinda fitting. They were, like, asking for it.
Abusers shouldn't feel safe, though. Their safe haven can still end up as Nagasaki, after all...
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Re: Divine Judgment: The Case of overtyped vs 広島市

Postby boshaw » Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:21 pm

Kaios wrote:Okay, well stuff like that should factor in to their decision. We already knew the majority of players that spend their time destroying the work of others (or ruining the game for some players in other ways such as creating clients that give you an advantage in combat) don't actually put as much effort in to the game in terms of quality grind but it's nice to see someone admit it once in awhile.

Not to brust your bubble but our client has no combat advantages to it that public ones didn't. In fact I mean pretty sure k-t has more combat related features than us.
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Re: Divine Judgment: The Case of overtyped vs 広島市

Postby RJT » Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:21 pm

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jorb wrote:Sixteen hours ago an American airplane dropped one bomb on Hiroshima and destroyed its usefulness to the enemy. That bomb had more power than 20,000 tons of TNT. It had more than two thousand times the blast power of the British "Grand Slam" which is the largest bomb ever yet used in the history of warfare.
The Japanese began the war from the air at Pearl Harbor. They have been repaid many fold. And the end is not yet. With this bomb we have now added a new and revolutionary increase in destruction to supplement the growing power of our armed forces. In their present form these bombs are now in production and even more powerful forms are in development.
It is an atomic bomb. It is a harnessing of the basic power of the universe. The force from which the sun draws its power has been loosed against those who brought war to the Far East.
Before 1939, it was the accepted belief of scientists that it was theoretically possible to release atomic energy. But no one knew any practical method of doing it. By 1942, however, we knew that the Germans were working feverishly to find a way to add atomic energy to the other engines of war with which they hoped to enslave the world. But they failed. We may be grateful to Providence that the Germans got the V-1's and V-2's late and in limited quantities and even more grateful that they did not get the atomic bomb at all.
The battle of the laboratories held fateful risks for us as well as the battles of the air, land, and sea, and we have now won the battle of the laboratories as we have won the other battles.
Beginning in 1940, before Pearl Harbor, scientific knowledge useful in was pooled between the United States and Great Britain, and many priceless helps to our victories have come from that arrangement. Under that general policy the research on the atomic bomb was begun. With American and British scientists working together we entered the race of discovery against the Germans.
The United States had available the large number of scientists of distinction in the many needed areas of knowledge. It had the tremendous industrial and financial resources necessary for the project and they could be devoted to it without undue impairment of other vital war work. In the United States the laboratory work and the production plants, on which a substantial start had already been made, would be out of reach of enemy bombing, while at that time Britain was exposed to constant air attack and was still threatened with the possibility of invasion. For these reasons Prime Minister Churchill and President Roosevelt agreed that it was wise to carry on the project here. We now have two great plants and many lesser works devoted to the production of atomic power. Employment during peak construction numbered 125,000 and over 65,000 individuals are even now engaged in operating the plants. Many have worked there for two and a half years. Few know what they have been producing. They see great quantities of material going in and they see nothing coming out of these plants, for the physical size of the explosive charge is exceedingly small. We have spent two billion dollars on the greatest scientific gamble in history -- and won.
But the greatest marvel is not the size of the enterprise, its secrecy, nor its cost, but the achievement of scientific brains in putting together infinitely complex pieces of knowledge held by many men in different fields of science into a workable plan. And hardly less marvelous has been the capacity of industry to design and of labor to operate, the machines and methods to do things never done before so that the brainchild of many minds came forth in physical shape and performed as it was supposed to do. Both science and industry worked under the direction of the United States Army, which achieved a unique success in managing so diverse a problem in the advancement of knowledge in an amazingly short time. It is doubtful if such another combination could be got together in the world. What has been done is the greatest achievement of organized science in history. It was done under pressure and without failure.
We are now prepared to obliterate more rapidly and completely every productive enterprise the Japanese have above ground in any city. We shall destroy their docks, their factories, and their communications. Let there be no mistake; we shall completely destroy Japan's power to make war.
It was to spare the Japanese people from utter destruction that the ultimatum of July 26 was issued at Potsdam. Their leaders promptly rejected that ultimatum. If they do not now accept our terms they may expect a rain of ruin from the air, the like of which has never been seen on this earth. Behind this air attack will follow sea and land forces in such number that and power as they have not yet seen and with the fighting skill of which they are already well aware.
The Secretary of War, who has kept in personal touch with all phases of the project, will immediately make public a statement giving further details.
His statement will give facts concerning the sites at Oak Ridge near Knoxville, Tennessee, and at Richland, near Pasco, Washington, and an installation near Santa Fe, New Mexico. Although the workers at the sites have been making materials to be used producing the greatest destructive force in history they have not themselves been in danger beyond that of many other occupations, for the utmost care has been taken of their safety.
The fact that we can release atomic energy ushers in a new era in man's understanding of nature's forces. Atomic energy may in the future supplement the power that now comes from coal, oil, and falling water, but at present it cannot be produced on a bases to compete with them commercially. Before that comes there must be a long period of intensive research. It has never been the habit of the scientists of this country or the policy of this government to withhold from the world scientific knowledge. Normally, therefore, everything about the work with atomic energy would be made public.
But under the present circumstances it is not intended to divulge the technical processes of production or all the military applications. Pending further examination of possible methods of protecting us and the rest of the world from the danger of sudden destruction.
I shall recommend that the Congress of the United States consider promptly the establishment of an appropriate commission to control the production and use of atomic power within the United States. I shall give further consideration and make further recommendations to the Congress as to how atomic power can become a powerful and forceful influence towards the maintenance of world peace
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Re: Divine Judgment: The Case of overtyped vs 広島市

Postby Kaios » Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:25 pm

boshaw wrote:Not to brust your bubble but our client has no combat advantages to it that public ones didn't. In fact I mean pretty sure k-t has more combat related features than us.


what about the one where you go in for an attack when your opponent has defenses down but if they put them back up in time it stops it
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Re: Divine Judgment: The Case of overtyped vs 広島市

Postby sabinati » Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:27 pm

rye130 wrote:
Kaios wrote:so what exactly is Boshaw good for if you aren't using any of the scripts he implemented to do anything related to industry or farming


Our bots got broke by one of the updates and Boshaw hasn't bothered fixing them since he's working on a text client and generally enjoying his life in other ways besides working as a sweatshop client maker.


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Re: Divine Judgment: The Case of overtyped vs 広島市

Postby boshaw » Tue Mar 29, 2016 8:31 pm

Kaios wrote:
boshaw wrote:Not to brust your bubble but our client has no combat advantages to it that public ones didn't. In fact I mean pretty sure k-t has more combat related features than us.


what about the one where you go in for an attack when your opponent has defenses down but if they put them back up in time it stops it


I'm not sure who you're getting this info from but that does not exist unless you're referring to how our combat bot I made worked in w8, which never was used outside of spars and some animals for testing.

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