Request for Contact: Helfors/Never Neverland

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Re: Request for Contact: Helfors/Never Neverland

Postby Hasta » Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:02 pm

I'll keep my hat (along with other pieces of clothing) on for now, thank you very much, since Jorb seems to be really pissed off and prone to spitting bile at random people.

All in all, this thread was not necessary at best, more likely harmful and defeating the idea it's supposed to achieve (fair game with no worldbreaking irrepairable abuse, presumably). I say it was started out of spite, on a momentary emotional lapse of judgement. Happens to the best of us.
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Re: Request for Contact: Helfors/Never Neverland

Postby DatSheep » Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:05 pm

Sarge wrote:
DatSheep wrote:I agree that the devs don't always make decisions that are 400 iq everytime a change is made, but its pretty useless to bring up stuff like the potters clay when that was redacted after they saw how the community was against it, and why. This is a game in eternal alpha and its not the end of the world that the sole two devs of this game aren't playing it themselves at a high level of gameplay. Yeah, there's stuff they should learn from us and I can see they do that. Maybe in time they'll grasp more of that shit, and maybe they do understand more than they let on. Idk. There's times when people treat the game, in all its complexity, as if it's supposed to be perfectly balanced by now with only two people working on it. Maybe it could have been, but it's not and there's not much use in rubbing stuff in their faces without any helpful criticism or commentary.

If you have been playing this game for as long as your you've had your forum account then
jorb wrote:Honestly, you have no insight into the situation.


If not, then you should know that this is a trend that has been going on for many many years. It's no surprise that people are losing their shit about it. Just note all the vet's comments, they all echo the exact same thing.

There's been at least one time in the near past where Jorbtar nuked some village and most people approved of the force they used. If they've done it before I have faith they will again. Nagging them may not get you the result you wanted.
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Re: Request for Contact: Helfors/Never Neverland

Postby Avu » Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:06 pm

wonder-ass wrote:
Kaios wrote:It’s alright if you want to maintain token sales by giving them a chance to come clean, just say that. I would want to keep the income from players selling their q200+ anvils for $200-$250 in tokens as well.


lots of speculations when we have 0 idea of what they have actually done. maybe its time to take off the tinfoil hat until we know what they have actually done?


If jorb didn't enjoy the shitshow he would have locked the thread when he made it. He enjoys this kind of stuff.
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Re: Request for Contact: Helfors/Never Neverland

Postby jorb » Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:09 pm

Sarge wrote:
wonder-ass wrote:apologize for what? not being a pushover is oke in my books tbh.

It really is not okay for a dev to speak to a player like that. That was very insulting.


> be sprucecap
> go on forums
> "LMAO devs ur retarded!"
> Mild jibe shows the door
> "HEDINDUNUFFIN! He's a good boi!"

The absolute state of the forums.
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Re: Request for Contact: Helfors/Never Neverland

Postby Kaios » Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:11 pm

Dude you are way more spruce cap status than stickman, I want to see what your base looks like!
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Re: Request for Contact: Helfors/Never Neverland

Postby boshaw » Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:12 pm

I feel like the Jorb we see on the forums is not the Jorb we see on streams. Does Jorb even exist? Could this be an actor on streams and just an angry AI on the forums?
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Re: Request for Contact: Helfors/Never Neverland

Postby jorb » Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:13 pm

Oddity wrote:
jorb wrote:Your point? That we should lay down, die, and do nothing?

No, the point is that you should play your own game as seriously as the vets do some day. Or you'll just keep developing in circles for another 10 years.


Tempted to agree, but it's a good deal of work to do that incognito. Not saying we couldn't do more.
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Re: Request for Contact: Helfors/Never Neverland

Postby Sarge » Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:13 pm

jorb wrote:
Sarge wrote:
wonder-ass wrote:apologize for what? not being a pushover is oke in my books tbh.

It really is not okay for a dev to speak to a player like that. That was very insulting.


> be sprucecap
> go on forums
> "LMAO devs ur retarded!"
> Mild jibe shows the door
> "HEDINDUNUFFIN! He's a good boi!"

The absolute state of the forums.

You don't even realise how ironic it is for you to call Kruger-Dunning on him. If you did it wouldn't be ironic.
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Re: Request for Contact: Helfors/Never Neverland

Postby Hasta » Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:13 pm

jorb wrote:> be sprucecap
> go on forums
> "LMAO devs ur retarded!"
> Mild jibe shows the door
> "HEDINDUNUFFIN! He's a good boi!"

The absolute state of the forums.


Well, toi be honest, I did find your comments here to be overly aggressive. That may be just because I can't help but see "a sprucecap" as a derogatory term, especially in the context you're using it. I, too, think it's not okay for a developer to behave that way, but, then again, who am I to judge, you're doing a decent job and I use it at my leisure (mostly) for free. Just don't generalize this bigly.
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Re: Request for Contact: Helfors/Never Neverland

Postby Omnipotent » Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:14 pm

Hasta wrote:I'll keep my hat (along with other pieces of clothing) on for now, thank you very much, since Jorb seems to be really pissed off and prone to spitting bile at random people.

All in all, this thread was not necessary at best, more likely harmful and defeating the idea it's supposed to achieve (fair game with no worldbreaking irrepairable abuse, presumably). I say it was started out of spite, on a momentary emotional lapse of judgement. Happens to the best of us.

You might want to hold your reservations until we know what has been done. Blind speculation benefits nobody. Hold your useless conjectures until Jorb makes an official announcement.

If AD truly was abusing exploits to gain stats at an increased rate, then they need to be severely punished. But again, this is all pointless speculation without any facts. Many other games hold zero tolerance policies against intentional cheating. Knowing how things have been handled in the past, the punishment will probably never be as severe as it should be.
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