Game Development: Dressed in Ermine

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Re: Game Development: Dressed in Ermine

Postby Roxaereon » Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:19 am

Hmmm. Honestly, I don't agree with the name change. If the players hate it, then the players always have the freedom to wage war upon those realms and then make a hilarious post in the Moot about how they "ended White Pride" and shit.

It's a sandbox and all.
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Re: Game Development: Dressed in Ermine

Postby Ants » Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:28 am

Roxaereon wrote:Hmmm. Honestly, I don't agree with the name change. If the players hate it, then the players always have the freedom to wage war upon those realms and then make a hilarious post in the Moot about how they "ended White Pride" and shit.

It's a sandbox and all.

White pride was changed upon request of the realm's queen, not because the devs thought it was inappropriate.
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Re: Game Development: Dressed in Ermine

Postby MagicManICT » Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:32 am

Ants wrote:
Amanda44 wrote:I really don't believe Jorb and Loftar changed the realm name because they were upset, I think it was supposed to be a tongue in cheek jab back at PP, the intention being for everyone to have a laugh over it ...

Unfortunately it back-fired because of the existence of the White Pride realm, which players genuinely found offensive, and Jorbs response to that just gave a bad impression and worsened the situation.

@Ants, it's a weed, not expensive female underwear ... :)

An expensive bra made out of weeds, you say?

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I agree. I'm offended by all these bare-chested women wandering around. How embarrassing!!

@Ants: If only the majority of the world looked at "white pride" in the type of connotation that we take phrases like "black power." Instead, we're used to seeing this phrase completely associated with neo-nazi and other racist groups. Sure, the meaning is one thing, but the associations are what drive people's sensibilities on the matter. Trying to play semantics to change people doesn't work. Just ask the black folks how successful they've been trying to take back certain words. (As Richard Pryor put it. --NY Times article, 2005)
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Re: Game Development: Dressed in Ermine

Postby dafels » Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:50 am

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Re: Game Development: Dressed in Ermine

Postby Astarisk » Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:10 am

At the end of the day no one from our side is upset at :falling: Player Population :falling: being named changed. We totally thought that might happen at one point, just the unfortunate series of events with other realm names ruined the prank. This is all just a prank gone wrong and we all still have lots of love for our developers x]. We'll petition for a new name once the drama has cooled and see where it goes from there. :geek:
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Re: Game Development: Dressed in Ermine

Postby SnowWiggles » Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:23 am

Suggestions:

Cannibalism. You can carve meat from bodies, and ...entrails??? And you can eat players. Why the fuck not? Perhaps it's a skill you need after murder, maybe this skill drops your charisma, who knows.

Coin collection? Suggested it before, Jorb seemed interested.
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Re: Game Development: Dressed in Ermine

Postby jorb » Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:05 am

Astarisk wrote:I honestly would have laughed my ass off if they just changed the graph emoji to one pointing upwards (Then petition us for a proper name if they so desire). That would have been the greatest prank of the world. A golden opportunity was missed there.


I will concede this much. Next time!
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Re: Game Development: Dressed in Ermine

Postby Amex32 » Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:35 am

There goes the "Meaty patch" ...
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Re: Game Development: Dressed in Ermine

Postby jorb » Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:37 am

Astarisk wrote:So your egos are tiny enough that instead of handling the situation you properly you decide to throw a fit over it?


Maybe I'm late in responding to this, but: We were not offended in the slightest by the name. I thought it was funny. Not entirely sure why you would think otherwise. Too few smileys and xDs? If we were thin skinned, I don't think we'd still be here, or build this game in the first place.

If anything, one could debate whether the whole unicode plethora of dumb wingdings should actually be allowed, because they are kind of cancer this particular matter somewhat aside, but oh bother on maintaining specific ban lists for that.

Astarisk wrote:Really, your response here is a yikes and ruins a lot of goodwill involved. This shouldn't even have been posted, the day Kotaku or Polygon see a game dev offer a response like that will be a real shame. I can see the headline of such an article already, "Player Population bad -- White Pride good". It makes the meme even greater - by changing the name Player Population you mostly just prove the point the realm name represented, that the devs stay so out of touch with what the players really want to see.


Fake news legacy lamestream media Lügenpresse can print whatever garbage they want, while we keep MHGA, building walls, and sending the bills to Mexico...!

More seriously: I want to see as little of contemporary modernity as possible in Haven, and that includes not enforcing contemporary 'Murican ideas of decorum in it. My love of money is not such that it trumps my love of truth, beauty, and justice. Matthew 6:24, John 18:36.

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Re: Game Development: Dressed in Ermine

Postby jorb » Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:39 am

Amex32 wrote:There goes the "Meaty patch" ...


I suck, yeah.
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