Game Development: A Far Green Country

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Re: Game Development: A Far Green Country

Postby Gotohellcadz » Sun Aug 30, 2015 6:07 am

earllohst wrote:The game is great and people are subscribing. Fact.


I'd actually really like to see some statistics on shop purchases over the course of a few months later down the road, maybe with the added addition of seeing the sign up date of those in the statistics (as to see if this purchase option is generally agreed upon by vets/newbies)
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Re: Game Development: A Far Green Country

Postby Ralek » Sun Aug 30, 2015 6:09 am

Audiosmurf wrote:Almost no one who played the game donated, to characterize the outraged playerbase as having "kept the game alive" is fundamentally wrong. People played the game for years, for free, while Jorb and Loftar kept it alive out of pocket. The fact that you write off anyone who attempts to disagree with you as a 'shill' just shows you have no interest in having an actual discussion and have no interest in forming an accurate opinion.



And you think they would've gotten to this point without the free players? When I say they kept the game alive I don't mean the literal upkeep of the servers, I am talking about the community. Without the free players the ones who donated wouldn't have stuck around, and the game would be dead. This is a joint effort, devs and players are what make games like these great. It was through both sides that they got to this point in which the game could be monetized, which they completely fucked up.

I am not saying devs don't deserve anything, I love this game or else I wouldn't have stuck around for 4 years, but they completely went about this the wrong way. I call that guy a shill cause he paints the devs as infallible, as if they did nothing wrong and as if this situation is completely acceptable. It isn't and if you think otherwise then u are just another shill tbh.

Btw I don't give a shit if you think my opinion isn't "accurate", whatever the fuck that means lol.
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Re: Game Development: A Far Green Country

Postby midasmouse » Sun Aug 30, 2015 6:11 am

burgingham wrote:
Ralek wrote:You just listed how they completely screwed up, either by incompetence, apathy, greed or whatever you want to call it, and you still think "the general direction they have taken is very reasonable." You know they completely fucked up and you are still making excuses for them in every thread. You are the worst kind of shill.

Edit: Also telling people to fuck off is not a "snide remark," it is a fucking insult and outright unacceptable. These people kept the game alive for years for fucks sake and he just shits on them like they are nothing.


No I did not. You clearly did not read my text properly. If you are just here to cause trouble then please stay away. If you have actual arguments go ahead and present them in a meaningful way.

About the "fuck off" thing. Is there a quote? I mean that is clearly not very appropriate for a dev, but considering you critics called them jews that should have burne d in Auschwitz I can somewhat understand it. Pot calling the kettle black and all.


The majority of all fans of this game, including myself, have a full understanding of intellectual value and believe that in all fairness they should be reimbursed for their efforts in making a new, yet alpha version of the game. The only hint of a compromise is a later review of the current subscription cost (but first and most importantly, let's milk it from those who are willing to pay). It's clear that any arguments presented are completely dismissed either by pathetic defensive statements made by the forum mods or by a few obvious brown noses. Whether they're Jews or not, it is abundantly understood by many here (and those who have already left without looking back) that all that matters is the money in our pockets and not the years we are willing to spend making friends, enemies, but most of all, memories.
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Re: Game Development: A Far Green Country

Postby TeckXKnight » Sun Aug 30, 2015 6:11 am

Gotohellcadz wrote:I'd actually really like to see some statistics on shop purchases over the course of a few months later down the road, maybe with the added addition of seeing the sign up date of those in the statistics (as to see if this purchase option is generally agreed upon by vets/newbies)

I think everyone wants to see that, the devs included. Just takes time.
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Re: Game Development: A Far Green Country

Postby burgingham » Sun Aug 30, 2015 6:15 am

jewboi wrote:
burgingham wrote:
Ralek wrote:You just listed how they completely screwed up, either by incompetence, apathy, greed or whatever you want to call it, and you still think "the general direction they have taken is very reasonable." You know they completely fucked up and you are still making excuses for them in every thread. You are the worst kind of shill.

Edit: Also telling people to fuck off is not a "snide remark," it is a fucking insult and outright unacceptable. These people kept the game alive for years for fucks sake and he just shits on them like they are nothing.


No I did not. You clearly did not read my text properly. If you are just here to cause trouble then please stay away. If you have actual arguments go ahead and present them in a meaningful way.

About the "fuck off" thing. Is there a quote? I mean that is clearly not very appropriate for a dev, but considering you critics called them jews that should have burne d in Auschwitz I can somewhat understand it. Pot calling the kettle black and all.

Enough with the "please read properly or else get out". You listed some aspects where even you disagreed. Why is it so hard to admit it?


What else am I supposed to tell you other than to read it again? There is a lot of conditional content in my text. I said: "X and Y is flawed, but that does not mean that Z". Maybe you break the text down into smaller pieces. Then it might become more obvious. Also you should include the conclusion.
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Re: Game Development: A Far Green Country

Postby Hervarth » Sun Aug 30, 2015 6:21 am

The game is really beautiful... thats all I'll say for now.
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Re: Game Development: A Far Green Country

Postby Badddup » Sun Aug 30, 2015 6:23 am

earllohst wrote:The game is great and people are subscribing. Fact.



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Re: Game Development: A Far Green Country

Postby jewboi » Sun Aug 30, 2015 6:33 am

burgingham wrote:What else am I supposed to tell you other than to read it again? There is a lot of conditional content in my text. I said: "X and Y is flawed, but that does not mean that Z". Maybe you break the text down into smaller pieces. Then it might become more obvious. Also you should include the conclusion.

No you're saying 'X and Y is flawed but let's see what Z does.' There's no other useful or conditional content. If I say you're a fag but some days you go deep in beastiality, does this make you not a fag anymore? It's flawed, so let's fix it.
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Re: Game Development: A Far Green Country

Postby Ralek » Sun Aug 30, 2015 6:35 am

burgingham wrote:
jewboi wrote:Enough with the "please read properly or else get out". You listed some aspects where even you disagreed. Why is it so hard to admit it?


What else am I supposed to tell you other than to read it again? There is a lot of conditional content in my text. I said: "X and Y is flawed, but that does not mean that Z". Maybe you break the text down into smaller pieces. Then it might become more obvious. Also you should include the conclusion.


Just because you wrote it all nice and neat, downplaying the real issues, it does not mean those weren't mistakes on their part. They screwed up plain and simple or else there wouldn't be so many threads/posts about this.

Yes the prices are high or whatever who even gives a shit anymore. It isn't even about the damn price but how they handled everything so poorly. You call the cash shop confusing, it is a goddamn clusterfuck. People are still asking about game time/play time bullshit that shouldn't even be that hard too comprehend. Do you seriously believe being able to trade game time for in game items between players is a good idea? If you have ever played any other online game you know why this bullshit. The list goes on and on but I won't even bother because I'm obviously a "le zany troll" that just wants to make trouble.

Also I don't care how you spin it, but an interview in some random website is not an official channel lol what the fuck
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Re: Game Development: A Far Green Country

Postby pretzelguy1 » Sun Aug 30, 2015 6:54 am

Did the server go down for everyone just now?
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