by Russaria » Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:38 pm burgingham wrote:Teabot wrote:Teabot wrote:ADMIN! I HAVE PAID 15$ PER MONTH, BUT SOMEONE STOLE MY CARROTS, HELP!
I really going to write a complain to paypal, it just a fraud!
Ok a little heads up. I see more and more posts like this popping up even teaching others how to get their money back.
It is not the devs committing fraud here. You can test the game for 48 hours and then you can decide wether it is worth the money they are charging for it. You don't think so? Fine, then do not pay. But don't pay and then try to get your money back just to piss the devs off. You knew what you were getting into.
Then it is you comitting fraud and I won't leave up tutorials on how to do that on the forums.
wow, now there's a little "Get what you give" that didn't even cross my mind lol
"Fraud"...you mean like an unannounced moment when people logged in to feed their animals and found a game they'd played for years, even abandoned and
hated by it's own creators BOOM behind a 15$ paywall. And little if any support of even how to get their Ender client to work if they WERE so desperate as to do that? And accepting a "As long as it lasts" threat on top of it? (Which means, we are leaving that open as bait for a while to at least get 15$ out of you). OH and for the 15$ we'll throw in 24 hours of "gameplay time" on the "new one" as well. Of course anyone who's ever played Haven for more than 2 days knows you can not do ANYTHING , especially at the beginning, in Haven in 24 hours of gametime..lol So is offering an amount of "Playtime" for money that the offerer knows is literally useless to the actual truth of the game and how it's played and what is needed "Fraud"? Is offering even less @ 12 hours even more fraudulent to then call it "free" for "Apperances" sake? Hum, it is an interesting question.
I guess according to how one looks at it , especially if they come from a position of experience with a specific product the idea of "Fraud" can become quite the grey area. And guess what J&L you are in the big world now, one without the haze of whatever drives your decisions. And in that world of Paypal, credit card companies, banks and legalities, offering products and services and taking people's money. You can have a whole lot more people looking over your shoulder than you may have thought AND those "customers" or "Victims" as the case may be considered by whomever they appeal to, have a whole lot more options that they use to when they were just cannon fodder on this moderator's forum.
It's just all part of the "game" you have stepped into yes?
PS: ever heard of Pony Island? Silly little genetics breeding game with 20+ million subscribers active at any given time. who get held hostage every 6 months to pay 14$ (or 24 for a year) or watch all their animals they spent years breeding and genetically altering starve to death...LMAO Yet the 2 owners (A girl and her boyfriend) make so much money they had to move to an Island off Switz to get out from under the taxes. May want to ask yourself why you'd be trying to charge 120 a year and then wondering why people would get pissed off.
Do I agree with such actions? Well, I'd prefer to just warn everyone on every video or mention of the game I find across the net, but to each their own.
In the end, you cannot treat people like so much trash and dirt and then get upset if they get upset. Tis the nature of that kind of dirty business.
But all that of course is just my opinion, ya know, like yours.
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