Game Development: Thy Kingdom Come

[Avu]

I wonder if the people who can't seem to think how to encourage pvp realize everything about the game is meant to discourage pvp.

Infinite time progression almost instant loss of progress.
Very very very small playerbase. Only a percentage of mmo players are interested in pvp and while a game like haven attracts way more pvp-ers than a regular mmo it doesn't only attract pvp-ers.
Said playerbase lacking in noobs who let's be real is what pvp-ers are looking to pvp. It has to be frustrating to either try and lose or try and gain fuckall because the other guy knows how to take as many precautions as possible.
The actual reward of pvp is very hardly ever worth it past the need to see the world burn. Most of the stuff one can get from pvp is usually easier to make yourself again noobs would be more profitable but right no noobs.
Political conflict which can create pvp even when the material gains are small is very limited. The community is tiny and incestuous. Everyone knows everyone.

Want more pvp well you'll have to work for it and it may never succeed anyway. Make the game a lot more casual to increase playerbase. Make winning at pvp more rewarding while losing a lot less punishing (if it's a 0 sum game it's hopeless). Allow opting out of pvp (might seem counter intuitive but it's not). But I have no hope of this stuff ever happening. The game seems more like a social experiment into antisocial behaviour rather than a game to me.

[ven]

^^Alts, man, they ruin everything. Pvp is an issue because it's disproportionately meaningless for factions while being so damaging for noobs.
In a single-character game even I would pvp.

...we just can't have nice things.

[Ysh]

^^Alts, man, they ruin everything. Pvp is an issue because it's disproportionately meaningless for factions while being so damaging for noobs.
In a single-character game even I would pvp.

...we just can't have nice things.

I think it is more useful to learn to cope with reality than to spend all life cursing it.

[ven]

Facts speak for themselves. This reality is unsustainable.

[ChildhoodObesity]

No, I was referring to DIS, Lady Goo's faction. They aren't noobs in a sense they are new to the game, they are noobs in a sense that they suck at combat.

u nabs complain about the combat system all the time xddd idk why ur acting as if legacy was perfect when u guys were crying about legacy just as hard "OH U CAN RUN FOREVER OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" u literally were spawning alts on ppl so that they couldnt run away from u huehuee and now ur like "OH CHASES ONLY LAST 1MINUTE" what do u really want?? the only time i recall ad being good at legacy combat was during the altspawning period and im sure everyone will attest to that

personally i dont mind this current combat system, i didnt mind w7 combat or w6 combat. however, w6 combat was a bit autism when if u lag for a second u will prob die huehue w7 was really gr8 combat imo and i enjoy the combat now as well i dont see anything too wrong the current combat system itself sure you could argue horses and shit affect it negatively but the system isnt all that bad in general if they were 2 fix some little bugs in it i dont see why itd need to be redone

also i agree with just about everything avu stated

[Ysh]

Facts speak for themselves. This reality is unsustainable.

You miss my point entire.

[Atamzsiktrop]

the only time i recall ad being good at legacy combat was during the altspawning period and im sure everyone will attest to that

I wouldn't. Also new combat is cancer.

[ChildhoodObesity]

the only time i recall ad being good at legacy combat was during the altspawning period and im sure everyone will attest to that

I wouldn't. Also new combat is cancer.

ya but ur lying xd

[dafels]

No, I was referring to DIS, Lady Goo's faction. They aren't noobs in a sense they are new to the game, they are noobs in a sense that they suck at combat.

u nabs complain about the combat system all the time xddd idk why ur acting as if legacy was perfect when u guys were crying about legacy just as hard "OH U CAN RUN FOREVER OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" u literally were spawning alts on ppl so that they couldnt run away from u huehuee and now ur like "OH CHASES ONLY LAST 1MINUTE" what do u really want?? the only time i recall ad being good at legacy combat was during the altspawning period and im sure everyone will attest to that

personally i dont mind this current combat system, i didnt mind w7 combat or w6 combat. however, w6 combat was a bit autism when if u lag for a second u will prob die huehue w7 was really gr8 combat imo and i enjoy the combat now as well i dont see anything too wrong the current combat system itself sure you could argue horses and shit affect it negatively but the system isnt all that bad in general if they were 2 fix some little bugs in it i dont see why itd need to be redone

also i agree with just about everything avu stated

If you would see me right now you would see me shaking my head pretty damn hard. The talk is not about how it was in legacy and how good or bad people were, you're clearly mad, because we were better than you since we killed you 4-5 times a month and you have to make post like this which is not on point, because mad. It is about making this combat better, which, now, is shit and noone PvPing right now compared to legacy just proves it and noone is interested in your talks who was the loser and who was the winner in world 7 or whatever which doesn't lead and contribute to anywhere.

[Atamzsiktrop]

ya but ur lying xd

Saying they were trash all the time is just ignorant bro.