Game Development: Bagpipe Brawl

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Re: Game Development: Bagpipe Brawl

Postby smileyguy4you » Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:53 am

Ozzy123 wrote:You're saying that you should be able to face a bear with shitty stats and shoot him while on foot? wtf XD


if you are solely an archer there is no way to combat animals other than boats or one shot fleeing every time, you have no combat against them once they agro and run at you, you must have unarmed/mele to kill them at that point, which then you might as well just be on horse back and unarmed/mele from the start...thus making archery useless except for boat hunting.

ChildhoodObesity wrote:I SHUD BE ABLE TO KILL TOP TIER ANIMALS WITH SHIT TIER STATS AND ITEMS THIS IS BULLSHIT

u nabs need to understand how stupid it was that u could even do that


i dont understand how you can be so stupid not to understand this simple issue, if you fight an animal you must have high enough mele/unarmed to fight it, no longer making archery a viable option for anything other than boat hunting it has nothing to do with low stats or being nub, it hasta do with you being a qqing asshat who cant admit the nerf you love is causing inbalance in other parts of the game
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Re: Game Development: Bagpipe Brawl

Postby apoc254 » Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:53 am

100unarmed combat for fighting is now 1000% times more useful than 100 marksmanship. the inbalance is ridiculous. I don't mean for pvp. I mean for hunting.
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Re: Game Development: Bagpipe Brawl

Postby Ozzy123 » Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:55 am

smileyguy4you wrote:
Ozzy123 wrote:You're saying that you should be able to face a bear with shitty stats and shoot him while on foot? wtf XD


if you are solely an archer there is no way to combat animals other than boats or one shot fleeing every time, you have no combat against them once they agro and run at you, you must have unarmed/mele to kill them at that point, which then you might as well just be on horse back and unarmed/mele from the start...thus making archery useless except for boat hunting.


1.Get some unarmed.
2.Stay far away from the animal(around your maximum range) shoot him once
3.Start running away right after shooting, get all the defensive manouvers up, stop running, shoot him again.
4. If you didnt kill him yet then repeat 3rd step.

apoc254 wrote:100unarmed combat for fighting is now 1000% times more useful than 100 marksmanship. the inbalance is ridiculous. I don't mean for pvp. I mean for hunting.


To make the 100 unarmed actually usefull you also need 100 agility, STR and a good armor. 100 unarmed and no agi will get you killed by any animal anyways.
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Re: Game Development: Bagpipe Brawl

Postby smileyguy4you » Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:57 am

Ozzy123 wrote:
smileyguy4you wrote:
Ozzy123 wrote:You're saying that you should be able to face a bear with shitty stats and shoot him while on foot? wtf XD


if you are solely an archer there is no way to combat animals other than boats or one shot fleeing every time, you have no combat against them once they agro and run at you, you must have unarmed/mele to kill them at that point, which then you might as well just be on horse back and unarmed/mele from the start...thus making archery useless except for boat hunting.


1.Get some unarmed.
2.Stay far away from the animal(around your maximum range) shoot him once
3.Start running away right after shooting, get all the defensive manouvers up, stop running, shoot him again.
4. If you didnt kill him yet then repeat 3rd step.


aiming is 6 second plus all animals will be on you in that time, you cant shoot them at point blank read the patch notes

all im pointing out is there is 0 use for archery other than boat hunting, you need the stats to kill them with unarmed or mele, so no point using archery in the first place when you can just fight on horse via mele/unarmed instead
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Re: Game Development: Bagpipe Brawl

Postby Hasta » Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:58 am

a lot of people wrote:waah waah can't kill bear with archery bad devs went an' nerfd mah bow


Guys, please, take some time to read the whoile thread. Jorb said, quite a few times, that he is open for suggestions on balancing archery damage/aiming speed to NOT be utterly obsolete. Hang on there, you'll get some of your hunting awesomeness back in a week or so.
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Re: Game Development: Bagpipe Brawl

Postby smileyguy4you » Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:59 am

Hasta wrote:
a lot of people wrote:waah waah can't kill bear with archery bad devs went an' nerfd mah bow


Guys, please, take some time to read the whoile thread. Jorb said, quite a few times, that he is open for suggestions on balancing archery damage/aiming speed to NOT be utterly obsolete. Hang on there, you'll get some of your hunting awesomeness back in a week or so.


blah blah all im saying is remove the point blank shooting restriction because it makes animal combat via archery useless
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Re: Game Development: Bagpipe Brawl

Postby ChildhoodObesity » Wed Jun 22, 2016 1:00 am

smileyguy4you wrote:i dont understand how you can be so stupid not to understand this simple issue, if you fight an animal you must have high enough mele/unarmed to fight it, no longer making archery a viable option for anything other than boat hunting it has nothing to do with low stats or being nub, it hasta do with you being a qqing asshat who cant admit the nerf you love is causing inbalance in other parts of the game

u had to have high ua/mc to fight it either way the only change is that u cant 1shot these top tier animalsa and mm doesnt increase damage it increases aimspeed so 100mm isnt going 2 help u kill shit if ur bow is q3 this seriously isnt a problem noobs should be boat hunting anyways
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Re: Game Development: Bagpipe Brawl

Postby Ozzy123 » Wed Jun 22, 2016 1:00 am

smileyguy4you wrote:
Hasta wrote:
a lot of people wrote:waah waah can't kill bear with archery bad devs went an' nerfd mah bow


Guys, please, take some time to read the whoile thread. Jorb said, quite a few times, that he is open for suggestions on balancing archery damage/aiming speed to NOT be utterly obsolete. Hang on there, you'll get some of your hunting awesomeness back in a week or so.


blah blah all im saying is remove the point blank shooting restriction because it makes animal combat via archery useless



Archery isnt made for standing 1 tile away from the animal and shooting it from that distance.
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Re: Game Development: Bagpipe Brawl

Postby Hasta » Wed Jun 22, 2016 1:01 am

smileyguy4you wrote:blah blah all im saying is remove the point blank shooting restriction because it makes animal combat via archery useless

And for PVP, would it be good there to have no minimal range with increased accuracy?
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Re: Game Development: Bagpipe Brawl

Postby smileyguy4you » Wed Jun 22, 2016 1:02 am

then there is no point to archery at all as it currently stands, give me an example of its usefulness, im not talking about only one shoting, im talking about once you agro the animal either via a missed shot or, a shot that doesnt cause it to flee you can not use a bow to fight it any longer its impossible, making it useless to use a bow in the firstplace
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