Divine Intervention: Helfors/Never Neverland, Roasted

[iamahh]

those are cursed items, if they still exist, whoever uses it or keep it, does in risk of getting rekt again

[Granger]

those are cursed items, if they still exist, whoever uses it or keep it, does in risk of getting rekt again

How is eg. metal mined in a deep cave level (that was only accessible through strength ill gotten) cursed?

[Ardennesss]

those are cursed items, if they still exist, whoever uses it or keep it, does in risk of getting rekt again

How is eg. metal mined in a deep cave level (that was only accessible through strength ill gotten) cursed?

I think he's referencing the bugged axes/saws that people are fishing up. I know a few people that have found such items since the nuking.

[TheDuke86]

Probably best to just wipe the world. Which sucks cuz I finally got my base built:(

[Hasta]

@Omni - while the doomsaying nature of your comment felt a lil' bit cringy to me, I agree with the factuals of it. However, iron fist is a very utopical way to go about fixing things here: that would never work because it's impossible to determine an appropriate punishment for every single abuse for every single player involved. Therefore, it'll always be either too mild (for some) or too harsh (for some). That's why I said in this particular case the devs did good: yes, the abuse moguls wouldn't feel a pinch, but (evidently from some previous comments) quite a few of "lower-level criminals" took a blow, for some even too much of a blow. That's a good thing: "hit them where it hurts". Next time others will think twice before ingulging themselves into fruits of abused bugs, and maybe, just maybe the most determined abusers will find themselves in a gaming vacuum one day. We all know AD's reputation, and their henchmen serve them out of fear, not loyalty; if the fear of getting nuked or obliterated from existence will become greater than the fear of being besieged by a bunch of cyrillic-swearing griefers - that ought to shrink the aforementioned "minority of people" influence in this game.

As for the long-term damage to the world and prospects of W12 - this all is true, except one thing. Similar situations will inevitably arise, no point to cry havoc every time they do and treat each exploit as "the very last one, reset the world and it's all peaches and honey ahead". I believe it'd be better to device a crutch mechanic, for example, include them into gaming process. Treat these things as "worldwide anomalies". Bug abusers seeded the world with broken and bugged items? Spread up a few NPC-barter stands that allow to turn in a bugged item for a random reward (as long as it's not possible to reproduce the bug, ofcourse, to prevent mass-farming those rewards). This won't be a panacea, but it will be better than ignoring those items entirely (again, it's all about damage control - obviously, fixing ways to make more of those items should be the first and foremost goal).

As for the advantages, gained unfairly - this happened, this will happen again. Can't do anything about it. This happening early in the world shows lack of monitoring by devs, at best; maybe they'll get better at watching anomalies, maybe they won't bother, but to mend the damage done? There is no realistic way of doing so short of uprooting the whole world.

[Granger]

"hit them where it hurts"

That would be the case would they not have terminated the characters but the whole accounts and have put a watch on all of them before making the topic, to also delete any accounts that received hats, tokens and other interesting stuff in bulk in the 24h they gave them to explain what they were doing (which they used so stash all important stuff).

[Ardennesss]

"hit them where it hurts"

That would be the case would they not have terminated the characters but the whole accounts and have put a watch on all of them before making the topic, to also delete any accounts that received hats, tokens and other interesting stuff in bulk in the 24h they gave them to explain what they were doing (which they used so stash all important stuff).

IMHO, they should've just recorded every HF and account that had a HF in that village, the qualities of all core industry components such as kilns, metal, and any tools that might be moved or relocated - and THEN made the announcement. Then, after the patch shutdown, go back in and check which hearthfires/accounts have moved, what tools have been relocated or moved, and nuke any of the new locations as well. The 24 hour warning gave them the ability to dump an untold number of tools into the local fishing system which are being found by innocent players that don't understand why their stone axe is boosting the fep of their food. Not only were they refusing to cooperate and explain the bug, but they've taken measures to try to propagate the damage even further out and are clearly not remorseful.

[jordancoles]

The only punishment with any weight to it is chain deletion of the player's accounts, along with store purchases

Anything else is a slap on the wrist

[Hasta]

^-- this is the "iron fist" that won't work for several obvious reasons. I'd get into it but I believe at this point it would be redundant.

[trinh]

There is still lots of Gods offending items in trashpools ( got it from sea washouts like 5min ago )