Divine Intervention: The Case of Core vs ST & CotTK

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Re: Divine Intervention: The Case of Core vs ST & CotTK

Postby Granny » Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:07 pm

Good call.
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Re: Divine Intervention: The Case of Core vs ST & CotTK

Postby susan_strong » Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:07 pm

Did Headshot's devcape was deleted with his character ?:o
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Re: Divine Intervention: The Case of Core vs ST & CotTK

Postby TwentyThree » Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:07 pm

overtyped wrote:1 month is garbage for losing a character to a bug, but its better than nothing !


Didn't say if the characters had been killed. I'm sure a few did, but I doubt all of them were.
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Re: Divine Intervention: The Case of Core vs ST & CotTK

Postby shubla » Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:08 pm

Dev cape? Why :roll:
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Re: Divine Intervention: The Case of Core vs ST & CotTK

Postby Cayur » Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:08 pm

Thank you based JLO
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Re: Divine Intervention: The Case of Core vs ST & CotTK

Postby Necroliter » Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:08 pm

susan_strong wrote:Did Headshot's devcape was deleted with his character ?:o

I`m quite sure his devcap will be in HF of any character he create now. Same as store hats.

Edit: nice dev resolution, imo. Bug abuse should not be tolerated.
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Re: Divine Intervention: The Case of Core vs ST & CotTK

Postby overtyped » Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:08 pm

shubla wrote:Dev cape? Why :roll:

I think its like a joke, because his character got the cape, and then got deleted.
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Re: Divine Intervention: The Case of Core vs ST & CotTK

Postby Potjeh » Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:09 pm

shubla wrote:Dev cape? Why :roll:

It's only fair, if you treat bug reporting and bug abusing as separate incidents.
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Re: Divine Intervention: The Case of Core vs ST & CotTK

Postby burgingham » Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:09 pm

Seems like a fair ruling.

@Dev Cape: It is actually the proper thing to do. He first exploited the bug so he gets punished with the others. But he also reported it afterwards the reward of that being a dev cape. Capes are account and not character bound btw.
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Re: Divine Intervention: The Case of Core vs ST & CotTK

Postby VDZ » Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:10 pm

TwentyThree wrote:Grats on catchin'em!
Poor Headshot though. Shoulda kept his char in my opinion.


I think it's entirely fair. Reward for reporting the bug, punishment for abusing the bug.

Though now that people get banned for exploiting, I do wonder about the question I posed in the other thread: How far can we go without being punished for it?

VDZ wrote:Now, the real question is: Where do we draw the line?

Should it be allowed to collect Dragonflies in a swamp using the horse's magical swampwalking abilities?

Should it be allowed to one-shot animals using the bow at 1 MM (before the fix)?

Should it be allowed to abuse the horse's hitbox to fight animals above your level?

Should it be allowed to trespass into a claimed cave without Trespassing using a horse?

There's varying degrees of bug abuse (from design mistake to blatant abusable bug) and varying degrees of harm caused (from minor advantage for user to complete annihilation of other player). At what point does it constitute 'abuse' and should abusers be punished for it?


Can we still safely abuse obvious design mistakes and minor bugs? Is anything that affects other players off-limits?
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