Game Development: Jelly Kebab

[Granger]

Regarding questgivers: @jorb please read viewtopic.php?f=48&t=60707 - from which I'll shamelessly plug this:

I think it should simply move into another boulder or tree nearby. This would make it impossible to kill them, unless one clears the whole map of trees and boulders.

While at it: they shouldn't like being owned, thus simply relocate in case they get claimed (similar as when their object gets destroyed).

I also don't think they should simply move to other trees and lose all identity.

That depends on how one views them: in case they're a spirit inhabiting a stone/tree it would be no problem, in case you see them as the object itself (in the way of being a benign twist on tree from 'the evil dead') then you might come to a different conclusion.

I take it that you see it more from the latter perspective, thus are inclined to rather keep the displesantries that come with the current hands-off approach. But maybe you could listen to your users that, abnormally for discussions about changes on this forum, seem to wholehearthly not only agree that 'keep-as-is' isn't what's best for the game (from a players perspective - which, should you need the refresher, are in the end the ones that have to like it as they're a source of food for your children) but also agree on a reasonable way to modify them so the unfun downsides are adverted?

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[MadNomad]

does the kebab roll food item have millions of possible FEP combinations?

[MagicManICT]

does the kebab roll food item have millions of possible FEP combinations?

given the types of meat... It's almost as large as the number of possible poker hands in 7 card draw.

Actually, it's probably larger. I'd have to sit down and work it out given you can have 0-8 of any one of the 42 meat types.

[Audiosmurf]

Liking kebab, appreciate a use for bulk mystery meat other than sausages. Love seeing numbers like ".00075 +1 dex" and stuff like that as a consequence of variable ingredients. Something about it is really amusing.

[Ysh]

does the kebab roll food item have millions of possible FEP combinations?

Should be 9,682,651,996,416 combination I think. 42 type of meat and you must pick 8 with duplicate allowed, maybe it is 42^8 to solve this.

[MagicManICT]

does the kebab roll food item have millions of possible FEP combinations?

given the types of meat... It's almost as large as the number of possible poker hands in 7 card draw.

Actually, it's probably larger. I'd have to sit down and work it out given you can have 0-8 of any one of the 42 meat types.

Ok, I had to look this up because it's been forever since I've done combinatorial math for statistics. A normal combination doesn't allow repeats (say a lottery or poker hand). Here, you can repeat any choice, and it was the part I had forgotten. The formula isn't any harder, just different. It's

(r + n - 1)! / r! (n - 1)!
or
(8 + 42 - 1)! / 8! (42 -1)! = 49! / 8! 41! = (49 * 48 * 47 * 46 * 45 * 44 * 43 * 42) / (8 * 7 * 6 * 5 * 4 * 3 * 2)

If I did it right...

450,978,066

[Hrenli]

does the kebab roll food item have millions of possible FEP combinations?

Yes.

Ignore what nerds wrote.

[MagicManICT]

Ignore what nerds wrote.

You and my kids both... sheesh.

[vatas]

Reminds me of how shuffling a standard 52-card deck most likely results in creation of a never-before seen combination of said cards.

[MagicManICT]

Reminds me of how shuffling a standard 52-card deck most likely results in creation of a never-before seen combination of said cards.

And with that level of randomness, it could almost be completely secure....