Game Development: Hit Sting

[jordancoles]

[*] Added an effect to illustrate the hit area for normal attacks. Pew-pew laser fight says hi, but we really have to indicate it.

This should help quite a bit

[Archiplex]

[*] Added an effect to illustrate the hit area for normal attacks. Pew-pew laser fight says hi, but we really have to indicate it.

This should help quite a bit

It's definitely the gem of the update.

I think they could be stylized to remove pew-pew laserness, though. Make the indicator for sting a giant spearhead with a rectangular 'box' around it to show the hitbox, or stuff like cleave/chop the image of an axe on the floor and whatnot

[MarcusXDead]

>Working on new combat mechanics and still ignoring archery.
Maybe you could read a post I made half a year ago - and give it a chance while ballancing combat?
viewtopic.php?f=48&t=63924
Might be just the right time to bring that dead stat from the grave, halloween is coming!
...At least in the world 12.
I've written my suggestions back then, and while you're reworking combat, maaybe you could try at least adding some archery/support related moves-stances? It'll help creating a situation, where you'll be "having to choose a combat style in advance".
I honestly like choosing non-meta playstyles in the games, and even in current shitty state I found a couple uses to archery in early game, but I still felt preety useless being compated to the guys who took boats and just speared everything to death.
Ofc I have no idea about late game pvp, but if you're doing ballancing - might as well start merging archery reballance while you're at it?

[jorb]

We're not ignoring archery, but on the contrary have plans to integrate it with the system, ideally giving archery moves and such. An archery revamp is however not a necessary condition for launching the changes to melee/unarmed combat, and thus it would at the very least be a later implementation.

[LaserSaysPew]

Pew-pew laser fight says hi, but we really have to indicate it.

I approve.

[jordancoles]

We're not ignoring archery, but on the contrary have plans to integrate it with the system, ideally giving archery moves and such. An archery revamp is however not a necessary condition for launching the changes to melee/unarmed combat, and thus it would at the very least be a later implementation.

What are the thoughts for the new system and PVM?

[DDDsDD999]

Only thing I really like about this system is it makes having to switch between targets not as important, because that's a cluster fuck.

Ping seems so important, idk if combat will be possible for people in america, at least when the really thin moves exist. Having bad ping causing you to miss your moves entirely seems over the top for a game with high-stakes and only one central server.

Friendly fire seems dumb and would just add to the feeling of clumsiness/clunkiness, especially when combined with this ping problem. Preventing friendly fire also seems dumb and would feel forced.

Moves stopping movement makes running away too easy. You pretty much can't hit anyone that just decides to not fight because they just out-run your attacks. And every single fight has and will always be one side trying to run towards a more favorable position and the other side deciding to chase and trying to take picks.

Jugular isn't enough to stop this forever-running. And it can't really be because then you have to use it on your allies/animals to run away.

How will this interact with boats/knarrs? Still just completely broken?

How about fixing the stupid stuff still surrounding the current combat system that will plague this one? Coracles take up way too much inventory space for how mandatory they are. Strider credoing/bunny slippers on kritters is stupid. Continents discourage pvp even further, if you're far away from your home without carrying a full prepared inventory of water/food/coracle you'll just get chased to death. Belt changes make inventory space way more sparse before troll belts, lots of fights this world were just ended because there isn't enough space to hold enough water, food, and a coracle for a chase. Winter sleds are probably busted but pvp is dead so no one's tried them.

Move queueing makes no sense with this aiming system, just get rid of it like literally every MOBA.

Mostly just posting this so I have a list to spam on the stream.

[Archiplex]

How will this interact with boats/knarrs? Still just completely broken?

Since i agree with a majority of what you said, I wanted to chime in here

I think it'd be really cool if combat just didn't work on boats (except maybe with bows, albeit harder?) and instead ship combat had its own special system, featuring ship mechanics such as ramming or shooting flaming arrows at other ships to damage them and ultimately cause them to no longer be able to be sailed (but not destroyed! utter destruction should take far longer).

[jorb]

We're not ignoring archery, but on the contrary have plans to integrate it with the system, ideally giving archery moves and such. An archery revamp is however not a necessary condition for launching the changes to melee/unarmed combat, and thus it would at the very least be a later implementation.

What are the thoughts for the new system and PVM?

wat?

[Archiplex]

We're not ignoring archery, but on the contrary have plans to integrate it with the system, ideally giving archery moves and such. An archery revamp is however not a necessary condition for launching the changes to melee/unarmed combat, and thus it would at the very least be a later implementation.

What are the thoughts for the new system and PVM?

wat?

Player vs monster, presumably.