Game Development: Rainy Sponge

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Re: Game Development: Rainy Sponge

Postby Hadehariast » Mon Sep 05, 2022 3:18 pm

I guess a lot of ya'll are lucky you didn't grow up in racist households. Tar-baby is the term you use when you want to call a nigger a nigger, but don't know if the folks you're keeping company with are quite as racist as you are. If no one bats an eye, you're in similar company.

Fun fact: tar-baby was the first racial slur I learned from my father when I was a child.

Now, jorb and loftar, you're unfortunately creating a commercial problem for yourselves. Tar-baby will likely get streamers suspended or banned on Twitch and YouTube. Moderation there will be based on American interpretations of the phrase, and they won't care about the nuance or the origins of the story. In fact, the origins in some ways make it worse-- a white man profiting off the backs of black slave stories? It'll be shoot first and ask questions later, like most modern American policing. This would be unfortunate, because you've actually picked up a streamer recently with some decent reach (Nookrium, YT: 144k subs) who has been posting videos of the game since the reset and racking up tens of thousands of views. I'm sure the "muh freedoms" folks here will be quick to encourage you to keep the tar-baby curiosity to spite the "woke" and "SJWs", but it's not their livelihoods on the line, is it? It's awfully easy to say whatever you want when you don't have to face the consequences.

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Re: Game Development: Rainy Sponge

Postby telum12 » Mon Sep 05, 2022 3:51 pm

Hadehariast wrote:I guess a lot of ya'll are lucky you didn't grow up in racist households. Tar-baby is the term you use when you want to call a nigger a nigger, but don't know if the folks you're keeping company with are quite as racist as you are. If no one bats an eye, you're in similar company.

Fun fact: tar-baby was the first racial slur I learned from my father when I was a child.

Now, jorb and loftar, you're unfortunately creating a commercial problem for yourselves. Tar-baby will likely get streamers suspended or banned on Twitch and YouTube. Moderation there will be based on American interpretations of the phrase, and they won't care about the nuance or the origins of the story. In fact, the origins in some ways make it worse-- a white man profiting off the backs of black slave stories? It'll be shoot first and ask questions later, like most modern American policing. This would be unfortunate, because you've actually picked up a streamer recently with some decent reach (Nookrium, YT: 144k subs) who has been posting videos of the game since the reset and racking up tens of thousands of views. I'm sure the "muh freedoms" folks here will be quick to encourage you to keep the tar-baby curiosity to spite the "woke" and "SJWs", but it's not their livelihoods on the line, is it? It's awfully easy to say whatever you want when you don't have to face the consequences.

As for the anglosphere, it's the sphere that matters.


nvm I'm gonna agree with y'all now. Tar-baby is racist. Idk what it is tbh but it's aparantly a US thing so probably. Y'all low-key retarded. Next you'll tell us we're not allow to use nordic symbols because some US neo-nazis use them. People don't care about the nuance or origin of that, right?

jesus...

If you're going to criticize anything, you might want to criticize the developer's anti-vax stance, obsession with Hitler, the fact that they literally have a "heil" salute in the game & nazi uniforms (both of which were recently on display in Valhalla), etc.
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Re: Game Development: Rainy Sponge

Postby Sevenless » Mon Sep 05, 2022 3:52 pm

Edit: Decided I was being a bit too edgy, and also there is decent reason to doubt the source of my information.
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Re: Game Development: Rainy Sponge

Postby PonyStew » Mon Sep 05, 2022 4:07 pm

Hadehariast wrote:Tar-baby will likely get streamers suspended or banned on Twitch and YouTube.


Yeah like streaming H&H is a great idea otherwise if it weren't for "Tar-baby" amirite
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Re: Game Development: Rainy Sponge

Postby Hadehariast » Mon Sep 05, 2022 4:07 pm

telum12 wrote:
Hadehariast wrote:I guess a lot of ya'll are lucky you didn't grow up in racist households. Tar-baby is the term you use when you want to call a nigger a nigger, but don't know if the folks you're keeping company with are quite as racist as you are. If no one bats an eye, you're in similar company.

Fun fact: tar-baby was the first racial slur I learned from my father when I was a child.

Now, jorb and loftar, you're unfortunately creating a commercial problem for yourselves. Tar-baby will likely get streamers suspended or banned on Twitch and YouTube. Moderation there will be based on American interpretations of the phrase, and they won't care about the nuance or the origins of the story. In fact, the origins in some ways make it worse-- a white man profiting off the backs of black slave stories? It'll be shoot first and ask questions later, like most modern American policing. This would be unfortunate, because you've actually picked up a streamer recently with some decent reach (Nookrium, YT: 144k subs) who has been posting videos of the game since the reset and racking up tens of thousands of views. I'm sure the "muh freedoms" folks here will be quick to encourage you to keep the tar-baby curiosity to spite the "woke" and "SJWs", but it's not their livelihoods on the line, is it? It's awfully easy to say whatever you want when you don't have to face the consequences.

As for the anglosphere, it's the sphere that matters.


Y'all low-key retarded. Next you'll tell us we're not allow to use nordic symbols because some US neo-nazis use them. People don't care about the nuance or origin of that, right?

jesus...

If you're going to criticize anything, you might want to criticize the developer's anti-vax stance, obsession with Hitler, the fact that they literally have a "heil" salute in the game & nazi uniforms (both of which were recently on display in Valhalla), etc.


You can say whatever you want. I said nigger and tar-baby repeatedly in my post. I put my free-speech mouth where my money is. However, there are consequences to speech and actions, and can you realistically tell me that YouTube and Twitch moderation is going to come down in favour of racial slurs? Do you really, honestly, think so? This is a potential commercial issue-- also known as a "real" issue, not an "internet free speech" issue.
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Re: Game Development: Rainy Sponge

Postby pietin1 » Mon Sep 05, 2022 4:26 pm

I'm from the deep south in US and I've heard all kinds of racist slurs but usually from ppl that were too lazy to try to better their lives. Not just black ppl but whites as well. Just call the tar baby curio a tar doll. Stop this racist crap!
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Re: Game Development: Rainy Sponge

Postby telum12 » Mon Sep 05, 2022 5:23 pm

Hadehariast wrote:
telum12 wrote:Y'all low-key retarded. Next you'll tell us we're not allow to use nordic symbols because some US neo-nazis use them. People don't care about the nuance or origin of that, right?

jesus...

If you're going to criticize anything, you might want to criticize the developer's anti-vax stance, obsession with Hitler, the fact that they literally have a "heil" salute in the game & nazi uniforms (both of which were recently on display in Valhalla), etc.


You can say whatever you want. I said nigger and tar-baby repeatedly in my post. I put my free-speech mouth where my money is. However, there are consequences to speech and actions, and can you realistically tell me that YouTube and Twitch moderation is going to come down in favour of racial slurs? Do you really, honestly, think so? This is a potential commercial issue-- also known as a "real" issue, not an "internet free speech" issue.


(I'll agree with you. Apparently tar baby is an American this so probably racist.)
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How could any hot-blooded male deny such a request under the circumstances.
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Re: Game Development: Rainy Sponge

Postby terechgracz » Mon Sep 05, 2022 5:36 pm

pietin1 wrote:I'm from the deep south in US and I've heard all kinds of racist slurs but usually from ppl that were too lazy to try to better their lives. Not just black ppl but whites as well. Just call the tar baby curio a tar doll. Stop this racist crap!

Sir, do you posess proof that never in history of time phrase "tar doll" was used as racial slur?
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Re: Game Development: Rainy Sponge

Postby Fierce_Deity » Mon Sep 05, 2022 5:38 pm

Can out of a season mushrooms spawn after a rain? It would really help with those out of season forage quests. They should also spawn in more biomes after a rain
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Re: Game Development: Rainy Sponge

Postby Sephiron » Mon Sep 05, 2022 5:40 pm

Next patch:
Due to reports of the name 'Tar baby' sounding racist, we have changed it now to 'picaninny'.
Added 'Cotton picaninny' curiosity- crafted with cotton and rope

Today's Patch Item, for the fair price of $9 is the "white Capirote", come celebrate your spanish heritage!
All Gold subscribers have been awarded the "white Capirote", free of charge.


Edit: Not that I care either way, as a white man I am not offended. But maybe change it to "Tar Doll" just to subvert accusations
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