Game Development: Milling Water

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Re: Game Development: Milling Water

Postby gravesmerch » Thu Jan 25, 2024 1:32 pm

seems you can only build the mill on a straight line

if the tiles are diagonal, it gives terrain not allowed error
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Re: Game Development: Milling Water

Postby Barbamaus » Thu Jan 25, 2024 6:13 pm

gravesmerch wrote:seems you can only build the mill on a straight line

if the tiles are diagonal, it gives terrain not allowed error


That's not true, you can build then diagonally. That error means you're just placing it too far in or too far out.

Both of these are diagonally built:
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Re: Game Development: Milling Water

Postby Barbamaus » Thu Jan 25, 2024 6:27 pm

nevera wrote:
veme wrote:The problem with this is that most of the games out there has gameplay span like 30 minutes, so if you don't learn mechanics, you will lost max few minutes of life. Examples - Overwatch, Fortnite, Counter-Strike, League of Legends, Rocket League and many others. All are PvP and in all if you defeat, then you lost 10-30 min. In Haven, this span is extended to months. Losing 30 minutes vs. loosing 3 months are different.


The work you lose from being KO'd and robbed does not equate to the full amount of time you stuck into this world


It's true you don't lose the full amount, but you do lose a good chunk of it. I think many people here forget that hermits and small villages don't have huge stockpiles of everything.
If I was KOed today, I could replace any of my gear without gathering any new materials. Even for stuff like gold, pearls, or troll hides, I have at least a few extras to replace my current gear if I lose it. But there's plenty of hermits who don't; maybe they saved for weeks to buy a troll belt, a good set of ring, or a decent weapon.

nevera wrote:I reckon most hermits enjoy the risk of being outside their walls

Not sure which hermits you've been talking to, but I've interacted with lots of hermits and small villages over the last few worlds, I've never heard any non-pvp player saying they enjoy risking to lose their progress to go outside.
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Re: Game Development: Milling Water

Postby Ø » Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:59 pm

Has anyone tried building a Watermill in a cave?
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Re: Game Development: Milling Water

Postby Kamekono » Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:33 pm

Ø wrote:Has anyone tried building a Watermill in a cave?


It does let me place the blueprint for it, so I guess it works
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Re: Game Development: Milling Water

Postby Ø » Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:41 pm

Kamekono wrote:
Ø wrote:Has anyone tried building a Watermill in a cave?


It does let me place the blueprint for it, so I guess it works
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Sweet! Thanks for the info!
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Re: Game Development: Milling Water

Postby nanoswimz » Fri Jan 26, 2024 7:18 am

Baking is still bad and not viable

Its impossible to achieve any results like that via baking. Better do more steaks/other meat dishes.

Buns have same FEP as salads and this dumb
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Re: Game Development: Milling Water

Postby gravesmerch » Fri Jan 26, 2024 1:09 pm

nanoswimz wrote:Baking is still bad and not viable

Its impossible to achieve any results like that via baking. Better do more steaks/other meat dishes.

Buns have same FEP as salads and this dumb


salads are pretty good effort/gain ratio, excellent for casuals and hermits

bark bread somehow is pretty good effort/gains ratio, other baking goods are more effort than gains

gray seal and bears are pretty high effort, also uncommon
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Re: Game Development: Milling Water

Postby Kamekono » Fri Jan 26, 2024 3:25 pm

Ø wrote:
Kamekono wrote:
Ø wrote:Has anyone tried building a Watermill in a cave?


It does let me place the blueprint for it, so I guess it works
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Sweet! Thanks for the info!


My pleasure :)
I'm not sure if it will work for machines, but I'd assume so just like windmill does.
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Re: Game Development: Milling Water

Postby pagsiu » Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:11 pm

nanoswimz wrote:Baking is still bad and not viable

Its impossible to achieve any results like that via baking. Better do more steaks/other meat dishes.

Buns have same FEP as salads and this dumb


Yeah, baked goods are still quite bad. Lowering hunger was a step in the right direction, but most high-effort baking recipes are utter crap, plum pudding for example. Different sweeteners should be boosted as well.
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