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Postby mamesh » Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:35 pm

found a liltle anoying bug with food trough, if you put say 20ql food in it and later you add 50ql the overall ql of the food in the trough never goes up, i had around 20 unit of 29ql food and added later 60unit of 50ql food and it never moved up beyond 29ql
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Re: food trough

Postby Avu » Wed Jan 13, 2010 4:02 pm

That's probably that way because the game always rounds down..
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Re: food trough

Postby Seizure » Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:22 pm

The best way to deal with Q in trough's is to be just careful what you put in them.

Also, only replace a full trough with a empty one, dont just toss seeds into them willy nilly. Doing this keeps the Q up and reduces reduction from the games averaging system.
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Re: food trough

Postby Shades » Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:37 pm

It's not averaging it's the lowest value. If you have one item of 60ql and one of 40ql then the trough fodder ql is 40. (unless that is a bug too)
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Re: food trough

Postby mamesh » Wed Jan 13, 2010 10:52 pm

Can a dev tell if its a planned feathure or a bug please ?
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Re: food trough

Postby Kahim » Sun Jan 17, 2010 8:06 am

Loftar said it was suppose to round itself up and fix itself much like if you get a bad test score but a large amount of good ones that bad ones doesnt rly matter. Sadly thats not the case and that bad grade will follow you until you get pissed and destroy the trough then run around and kill your cows. Or at least build a new trough and only put your highest ql seeds in.

I suggest making a minimum limit say you have a lot of 45-55 crops well if your full nature give them say ql50+ seeds and plant the others repeat till your seed ql increases by lets say 20 that will give you a few days atleast with good ql food for your cows before you go to better ql food for them.
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Re: food trough

Postby Pacho » Mon Jan 18, 2010 8:24 am

The problem does seem to be that it rounds down.
A trough with 30 seeds averaging ql 50 + one seed of ql 75 = 30*50 + 75 = 1575
1575/31 ~= 50.80 which rounds down to 50.

You can add as many ql 75 seeds to that trough and it would never raise from ql 50 because of the rounding =|
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Re: food trough

Postby martinuzz » Mon Jan 18, 2010 12:36 pm

Nah, there is no rounding down. It's really only the lowest quality seed that counts.
If you put in 1 q20 seed and 100 q60 seeds, the quality is still only 20, even though 6020/101 would round down to q59
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Re: food trough

Postby Nemu » Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:31 am

Pacho wrote:You can add as many ql 75 seeds to that trough and it would never raise from ql 50 because of the rounding =|

this makes no sense unless a trough can record to infinity, every item placed into it and none of them ever get consumed, seems unlikely.

My question is, does the trough record every item in it and the Q number, or just the last averaged number each time you place a new item in.

If the former, then why is there an average trough quality, the animals should just eat each item one at a time and gain its individual quality.

I think the latter would be more logical
averaged trough quality + added item / 2

so martinuzz, your (6020/101)calculation could be wrong but you are right if you indeed tested your q20+q60=q20
since adding just six q60 after one q20, even if always rounding down, would get it to q59
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Re: food trough

Postby Ajantis » Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:52 am

Nemu wrote:or just the last averaged number each time you place a new item in.

I think this, and Pacho is right that trough will never reach q>50
I've tried with a trough half full q40, I added one q39 seed and the trough became q39

The Q formula to me looks like:
(average trough quality * seeds into trough + added item) / (seeds into trough +1)
and the result is always rounded down
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