Freedom to curse and to thief..but this?

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Re: Freedom to curse and to thief..but this?

Postby StarChaser » Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:35 am

theTrav wrote:Also, I'm in favour of banning JTG, not because of any specific one thing he's done, but because he's a douche bag and I don't like him and he offends me with his trolling.


I don't think that will ever happen. No matter what people say or how many people say it, banning will not happen in this game.

He will get bored of it eventually, just like ShockedFrog did. And maybe he will decide to play the game in a less than obscene manner.
I may disagree with what he does, but to me it is just like a raving lunatic running around the country side. Sadly there is abuse of the account/character limit on his part. I would find it much to hard work to do what he does, so to JTG, YOU GOT STAMINA... And to much time on your hands. ;)

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Re: Freedom to curse and to thief..but this?

Postby theTrav » Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:41 am

StarChaser wrote:I don't think that will ever happen. No matter what people say or how many people say it, banning will not happen in this game.


I realize that, and largely agree with everything else you said. I just figured I'd be honest about what I want and why I want it.
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Re: Freedom to curse and to thief..but this?

Postby sami1337 » Tue Jul 07, 2009 1:14 pm

theTrav wrote:
sami1337 wrote:
eql wrote:Would be funny if he lives in Germany. I could be calling the cops on his ass. But if he did he would never do something like this.

lol, you fuckwit.



By saying you would call the cops on him you lend your support to denying people political speech on the grounds that they're dickheads and would have us all castrated at birth.



I consider that the same as a ban.
Plus i am not going against free speech. I would be abusing the lack of free speech in Germany.
The same as how someone from Japan could call the FBI to report a paedophile in the US.

But i admit, it wasn't the smartest thing i said.
The ones who see things differently.

You can praise them, disagree with them, quote them, disbelieve them, glorify or vilify them. About the only thing you can't do is ignore them.
And while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius.
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Re: Freedom to curse and to thief..but this?

Postby provo » Tue Jul 07, 2009 4:19 pm

theTrav wrote:
sami1337 wrote:
eql wrote:Would be funny if he lives in Germany. I could be calling the cops on his ass. But if he did he would never do something like this.

lol, you fuckwit.



By saying you would call the cops on him you lend your support to denying people political speech on the grounds that they're dickheads and would have us all castrated at birth.



agreed it was a silly thing to say.

but isn't it a bit much to suggest calling the cops for "race hate/free speech" crimes is the same as castrating people at birth.

You fucking hippies and free speech..... if you're not free to swear in the middle of the street and incite a race riot, we are all living in Nazi germany with castrations at birth.

This type of black and white argument turns free speech into a joke.
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Re: Freedom to curse and to thief..but this?

Postby Rift » Tue Jul 07, 2009 6:39 pm

*rolls eyes* i hate this arguement so much. Why can't people just stop caring about certain words/phrases? Can't you see that trying to stop certain expressisions/communications only makes them more powerful whenever they do occur? Political correctness has never worked, nor ever will.
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Re: Freedom to curse and to thief..but this?

Postby JTG » Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:05 pm

It has. Look at the jew genocide, or the turkish genocide, or many other genocides.

It doesn't agree with your political correctness but it sure agreed with what they felt was politically correct. Infact In ancient times I imagine lots of people got killed for political correctness.

Only way to instill your form of political correctness is force. Look at the 1930s crime wave. Thats what happens when you don't have lethal force to handle experts at robbery, and murder, and mayhem. The FBI lost men trying to become a more effecient killing and crime stopping force. Over time it managed that, infact the person who lead to jon dillinger, and bonny and clyde's deaths was forced out of the fbi for being too much of public figure.

That shouldn't be a problem as what you need in this game is a provalent face to force everyone under what you see as a set of global morals ingame. Of course there will be people fighting against it as they have nothing to lose, and they don't like that. But overtime you'll eventually make everything for the better as people have a dependable person to look up to.

A freedom fighter is a romantic person to look at, which is what you see in griefers, thieves, and murderers. Until feel what they do first hand.

The only working strategies against freedom fighters in the past and now, is to integrate them, or kill them off.

The best part about this game is the fact you have a chance to also work the social ideals and such, with a completely open based system. Something that you won't see in a mmo period. The last mmo that had permadeath was a lord of the rings mmo, that people abandoned. Just like EVE, you'll lose a lot of players in wars where they lose everything they worked for. But the fact so many people lost their stuff makes more people join due to the fact the online gaming community is starved for risky gameplay, where its all or nothing.

This may be a alpha, but I imagine in the future you'll have a first in terms of mmorpg pvp war design and doctrines. As more people join you'll have big communities forming, and that will eventually lead to one forming just to take over the other ones.

What needs to be done now is to make the gameplay as such that superior numbers, or superior gameplays trumps, someone with large amount of bought skills but doesn't play very good. So you have the ability for new communities to fight and destroy older ones, Or someone who is talented with the system can take out someone way stronger than them. The skills will be a massive advantage but shouldn't determine who wins at combat.

Of course it may be already like this as we haven't really seen much pvp in the game period, but right now it feels as though my above statement is mostly correct.
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Re: Freedom to curse and to thief..but this?

Postby Jfloyd » Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:51 pm

JTG just posted something intelec- *head asplode*
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Re: Freedom to curse and to thief..but this?

Postby RiverPhoenix » Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:10 pm

Was anyone else's immediate reaction to JTG's post "Looks like he got hacked!" ;) :D

</kidding ;>

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Re: Freedom to curse and to thief..but this?

Postby Malicus » Wed Jul 08, 2009 12:01 am

Jfloyd wrote:JTG just posted something intelec- *head asplode*


I think I managed to avoid the asplodiness by this throught process: "Wall of text, by JTG? Obvious mindscrew. Do not read."
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Re: Freedom to curse and to thief..but this?

Postby theTrav » Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:36 am

provo wrote:isn't it a bit much to suggest calling the cops for "race hate/free speech" crimes is the same as castrating people at birth.

It's a smaller version of the same evil. I exaggerate to make a point, free speech IS black and white, you're either free to express yourself, or you're not allowed use naughty words without the cops being called.

provo wrote:You fucking hippies and free speech..... if you're not free to swear in the middle of the street and incite a race riot, we are all living in Nazi germany with castrations at birth.
This type of black and white argument turns free speech into a joke.

You're trying to brush off my point without actually addressing any of it. Are you actually in favor of 'some' limitations on free speech? Or are you not?

'Inciting' a crime is another stupid concept. Rich people are inciting thieves by having more stuff than them. Why is using words any worse?
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