Another PvP discussion (Screenshots of World 10 derail)

[sMartins]

[split from Screenshots topic, this post is the reply to viewtopic.php?p=744199#p744199 ]

that's a really rewarding aspect of haven, devs worry too much about pvp, but architecture is where it shines

Yeah .. exactly, pvp will always sucks, like every other MMO game. Much better to improve the other aspects of the game.

[NOOBY93]

that's a really rewarding aspect of haven, devs worry too much about pvp, but architecture is where it shines

Yeah .. exactly, pvp will always sucks, like every other MMO game. Much better to improve the other aspects of the game.

Why is it that the people who've never actually done PvP comment on PvP the most? Haven's combat was really fun in world 7 (and, more controversially, in world 6). Some also consider early w10 (pre-IP cost removal on defenses) combat to have been great. Please don't have an opinion just for the sake of having one, without having it based on experience.

"PvP sucks, so better to improve other aspects of the game" is a really ridiculous and stupid notion, don't you think it would make more sense to improve parts of the game that are actually lacking? Such as PvP or hunger/energy/satiations systems.

[Onep]

Sweetnes

Nice village looks super comfy!

[Granger]

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Could there be a portion of subtle irony in it...?

[NOOBY93]

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Could there be a portion of subtle irony in it...?

I'm reading it over and over again and instead of catching onto the subtle irony I'm losing IQ points

[Pinkie-Pie]

that's a really rewarding aspect of haven, devs worry too much about pvp, but architecture is where it shines

Yeah .. exactly, pvp will always sucks, like every other MMO game. Much better to improve the other aspects of the game.

I disagree. The constant looming threat of 'Will I be killed?' is part of Haven. After you pass the point of Meleeing bears and having enough con to survive a cave in, there still need to be things that can kill you.

Granted the balance is a difficult one Haven does have in place some mechanics that help discourage random killing.

[sMartins]

I disagree. The constant looming threat of 'Will I be killed?' is part of Haven. After you pass the point of Meleeing bears and having enough con to survive a cave in, there still need to be things that can kill you.

Granted the balance is a difficult one Haven does have in place some mechanics that help discourage random killing.

Yeah of course ... i'm not saying that, i'm even against the Salemish KO thing just implemented.
The game needs to be spooky/roguish like style ... otherwise will become boring pretty soon .... just saying that combat mechanics sucks in every MMO type of game ... cause technology limits, so it's not really worth spending too much time on it ... just need to be fair, like you said.

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that's a really rewarding aspect of haven, devs worry too much about pvp, but architecture is where it shines

Yeah .. exactly, pvp will always sucks, like every other MMO game. Much better to improve the other aspects of the game.

Why is it that the people who've never actually done PvP comment on PvP the most? Haven's combat was really fun in world 7 (and, more controversially, in world 6). Some also consider early w10 (pre-IP cost removal on defenses) combat to have been great. Please don't have an opinion just for the sake of having one, without having it based on experience.

"PvP sucks, so better to improve other aspects of the game" is a really ridiculous and stupid notion, don't you think it would make more sense to improve parts of the game that are actually lacking? Such as PvP or hunger/energy/satiations systems.

^ this

[jordancoles]

that's a really rewarding aspect of haven, devs worry too much about pvp, but architecture is where it shines

Yeah .. exactly, pvp will always sucks, like every other MMO game. Much better to improve the other aspects of the game.

Why is it that the people who've never actually done PvP comment on PvP the most? Haven's combat was really fun in world 7 (and, more controversially, in world 6). Some also consider early w10 (pre-IP cost removal on defenses) combat to have been great. Please don't have an opinion just for the sake of having one, without having it based on experience.

"PvP sucks, so better to improve other aspects of the game" is a really ridiculous and stupid notion, don't you think it would make more sense to improve parts of the game that are actually lacking? Such as PvP or hunger/energy/satiations systems.

I enjoyed this world's combat system up until they messed with the IP of moves and changed the colour of parry
I have no fuckin clue what's going on now

[infectedking]

I enjoyed this world's combat system up until they messed with the IP of moves and changed the colour of parry
I have no fuckin clue what's going on now

Could you imagine fighting someone with parry still giving red, Mass quick barrage and stack ridiculous coins till you can just spam knock it's teeth out while they try to even hurt you a little bit. Would be stupid as fuck if they kept it as red tbh.