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Re: What ruins this game...

Postby Audiosmurf » Sat Jan 23, 2016 3:45 am

Pickard wrote:
Audiosmurf wrote:I have been feeding my cows with each harvest, it's pretty tedious but it's not nearly as bad now that there are wheelbarrows. "I don't feel like playing the game" is not really an excuse.

If you like to feed cows, why not? But doing same stupid thing every day without possibility to take a break is extremely annoying. Considering most people stop playing.

If you want a break, have someone else take over the responsibility for you. You should need to put in the work to reap the rewards.

This discussion has taken place more times than I can remember, though. I'm not gonna change your mind and you're not gonna change mine.

The fact is, OP, J&L have more important things to worry about in attempting to develop a complete game than some of their playtesters botting. An argument could be made that because people are paying now there should perhaps be more attention paid to these things, but at the moment it is what it is.
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Re: What ruins this game...

Postby Pickard » Sat Jan 23, 2016 3:55 am

DaniAngione wrote:
Pickard wrote:
Audiosmurf wrote:I have been feeding my cows with each harvest, it's pretty tedious but it's not nearly as bad now that there are wheelbarrows. "I don't feel like playing the game" is not really an excuse.

If you like to feed cows, why not? But doing same stupid thing every day without possibility to take a break is extremely annoying. Considering most people stop playing.


The amount of boring daily chores you have to do is proportional to the power you wish to attain.
Taking care of it all is a LOW price for all the damage you can inflict upon the world.

It's the least the huge raiding villages should do, manage themselves.

If one doesn't like feeding cows, then one shouldn't build and aim too big. Go make a hermitage or something if it suits better.
If people want to grind quality like crazy and have huge amounts of food, cheese, metal, &c... then yes, they should work their asses off for it.

Isnt it a goal of competitive game - to get as much advantage as you can with minimum effort? What finding top q clay differs from writing usefull bot? :)
You call one acceptable and another unacceptable, other people thinks different.
Whining is useless, because whining cant stop people from using it.
Pls close topic as pointless.
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Re: What ruins this game...

Postby Pickard » Sat Jan 23, 2016 3:58 am

Audiosmurf wrote:If you want a break, have someone else take over the responsibility for you. You should need to put in the work to reap the rewards.

Oh nice, go find me one.
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Re: What ruins this game...

Postby springyb » Sat Jan 23, 2016 4:09 am

I'm guessing you just found Pickard's bot.
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Re: What ruins this game...

Postby DaniAngione » Sat Jan 23, 2016 4:12 am

Pickard wrote: What finding top q clay differs from writing usefull bot? :)
You call one acceptable and another unacceptable, other people thinks different.


Top q clay nodes are in the game, I don't have to bring it from outside.

I still have to dig the clay, bring the clay, build kiln, use the clay on kiln to get bricks, build good stuff with bricks, etc, etc... My 'advantage' was a reward for a good job that is part of the game: I explored, I have high survival to get the most of clay quality, etc...

It's quite different.
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Re: What ruins this game...

Postby shadowchris » Sat Jan 23, 2016 4:52 am

Maybe if farming wasn't so God damn boring, people wouldn't be making bots for this stuff. They tried to fix this with auto farming but it takes up too much stamina.

You really can't blame the people for botting but you can blame the system for being this bad. I've already expressed my opinions about the state of this game here of you want an expanded point of view viewtopic.php?f=40&t=46385&start=20
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Re: What ruins this game...

Postby Pickard » Sat Jan 23, 2016 5:02 am

springyb wrote:I'm guessing you just found Pickard's bot.

Nah, im personally dont use bots this world. But yes, its our allied village. And no, it doesn't matter.
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Re: What ruins this game...

Postby Pickard » Sat Jan 23, 2016 5:08 am

DaniAngione wrote:
Pickard wrote: What finding top q clay differs from writing usefull bot? :)
You call one acceptable and another unacceptable, other people thinks different.


Top q clay nodes are in the game, I don't have to bring it from outside.

I still have to dig the clay, bring the clay, build kiln, use the clay on kiln to get bricks, build good stuff with bricks, etc, etc... My 'advantage' was a reward for a good job that is part of the game: I explored, I have high survival to get the most of clay quality, etc...

It's quite different.
Argument failed, try harder.

I agree, if bots is free for everyone. Its like clay duping. Or top q public well.
But private bots is more like clay spot. You wrote it, you get reward.
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Re: What ruins this game...

Postby Shrapnelx » Sat Jan 23, 2016 5:17 am

Lol cry more..

I dont use bots, but i dont care if others use them.. its Haven, where everything is unfair, meta or not.

Shut up and play the game, nobody gives a fuck about your opinions.
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Re: What ruins this game...

Postby loleznub » Sat Jan 23, 2016 5:26 am

If it will make you stop crying, I can PM you my bots.

Beet Farmer (Different from other harvester since it places beetroots and leaves in the nearest empty trough after replanting a beetroot)

Glimmermoss Harvester (Includes Bat Killer)

Q Farm Grinder (plants and replants when object is done)

My personal favorite: The Scavenger (Digs soil, sand, water etc. and will automatically mark the location of a material that is in the quality threshold that you set)


These are all custom coded by me, but you will have to pick out where I hide the keyloggers and Trojans.

Let me know if you're interested.
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