So umm I just found this

[Jacobian123]

You can make nice looking settlements (see: dani's mountaintop village.)

The graphics make them look pretty shit tbh. Still hate the 3D.

He had to artificially insert pretty pictures into the background in order to make that shit look anywhere close to appealing.

Jorbtar just needs to make :cam bad an official camera and add a skybox to the game.

[shubla]

HOLY FUCK DEVS ARE GREEDY JEWS! NOT MAKING GAMES 100% FREE!!
Dead game! No players! No hope! #Ruined

[Kaios]

HOLY FUCK DEVS ARE GREEDY JEWS! NOT MAKING GAMES 100% FREE!!
Dead game! No players! No hope! #Ruined

I get your point shubla really I do and what we have now is in a decent place but at the time it was a pretty big deal and the backlash was more than warranted. Just look at the one comment with 265 likes over the course of 9 months, that's likely 266 players that will never return if you include the guy making the comment.

[ven]

I think the only problem with the game being no longer free is the small playerbase. Everyone got used to getting things for free and complained when they suddenly weren't, but if there were efforts for increasing the number of new players, the new forum culture would eventually be fine with it and paying would only be an issue for a small proportion of haters. I mean, it's fair that we should pay to play, and there are worse games around, costing more and having more players than haven. Just look at survivalcraft and don't starve, for example. Haven is more developed than both of them, and even with their fuckeries our devs are more present than those others. In survivalcraft, for instance, it's common for months to pass before you hear anything from the dev, but it still has 50k unique acquisitions and is more successful than haven.

I honestly don't get why jorbtar are against promoting the game.

[The_Blode]

I honestly don't get why jorbtar are against promoting the game.

I see Jorbtar the same way i do Toady. People making a large scale game with lots to do that can be played at any point during it's development. You shouldn't advertise an unfinished product, and early access/kickstarter has proven that time and again in the realm of video games.
I wholeheartedly support J+L making and perfecting the game for as long as they want until they consider it to be in a finished state. That's when shit like playercount and profit become a big deal.

[Jesus_Smith_Nandez]

Toady's product is 100% free though
and he still makes more money than J-L

[The_Blode]

Toady's product is 100% free though
and he still makes more money than J-L

Is there a point attached to these statements or is it "tell me things i already know" day?

And that comes off as a lot more hostile than I want it to but I'd rather write this sentence than faff about trying to re-word it

[linkfanpc]

I know there is a HnH inspired mod for Project Zomboid that used some sprites from Daji's legacy texture pack.
Don't know if it still exists though.

HydroCraft, yeah. Awesome mod, it's one of my primary mods i always use. And i'm pretty sure it's still being updated, although not 100% sure on that.