Please give us combat stat caps in the new world

[jordancoles]

I cant agree with u there m8 Idk why do people think that hermitages should be easy to defend, if you are playing alone/with few people then you shouldn't expect to be able to defend from big villages, I hate the glorification of hermiting we have in this game. If you want to play alone for 1 hour/day and have 1 warrior/explorer/crafter char don't cry if you get destroyed by someone who plays in a big village for 5h/day hehh the game mechanics shouldn't help you in defending yourself in such situation.

Idk man I've been a LS at least 3 times now of villages with like 11 members and it's rare to actually recruit fighters
Most villages with members still don't really have the means to coordinate and defend themselves, not just hermits

But ye, it's possible to win with friends

[Ozzy123]

Statcaps are a fucking stupid idea, instead combat should simply be less based on stats in there should be moves that don't depend on stats (kinda like opp knocks but risky and not overpowered), the combat stats root should be bigger, it should be more reaction based etc

This way stats would still be relevant, statgrinding insane retards would continue being just that, but you could fight them successfully if better player. Also remove table bonus feps, remove bonfire charisma its not working as intended nobody makes feasts, remove satiation mechanic its dumb and useless, and other obvious fixes should do the trick

I don't even think that the group combat is that much stat based tbh, we can fight against our enemies even tho they outstatt us by like 10x (not even kidding) - it's very hard and it's easy to lose but with that kind of difference it should be extacly like that, if you could kill a 10000str guy with 1000str in a 1v1.. then I'd be as unfair as w6 movement combat heh

[Ozzy123]

I cant agree with u there m8 Idk why do people think that hermitages should be easy to defend, if you are playing alone/with few people then you shouldn't expect to be able to defend from big villages, I hate the glorification of hermiting we have in this game. If you want to play alone for 1 hour/day and have 1 warrior/explorer/crafter char don't cry if you get destroyed by someone who plays in a big village for 5h/day hehh the game mechanics shouldn't help you in defending yourself in such situation.

Idk man I've been a LS at least 3 times now of villages with like 11 members and it's rare to actually recruit fighters
Most villages with members still don't really have the means to coordinate and defend themselves, not just hermits

But ye, it's possible to win with friends

That's why these villages with 11 members that don't want to fight should be like "hey you big village lawspeaker, we will give you salt/icicles/curios/food/something and you will protect us, okay?" then you can both play in a hermitage&not get rekt

[NOOBY93]

Statcaps are a fucking stupid idea, instead combat should simply be less based on stats in there should be moves that don't depend on stats (kinda like opp knocks but risky and not overpowered), the combat stats root should be bigger, it should be more reaction based etc

This way stats would still be relevant, statgrinding insane retards would continue being just that, but you could fight them successfully if better player. Also remove table bonus feps, remove bonfire charisma its not working as intended nobody makes feasts, remove satiation mechanic its dumb and useless, and other obvious fixes should do the trick

I don't even think that the group combat is that much stat based tbh, we can fight against our enemies even tho they outstatt us by like 10x (not even kidding) - it's very hard and it's easy to lose but with that kind of difference it should be extacly like that, if you could kill a 10000str guy with 1000str in a 1v1.. then I'd be as unfair as w6 movement combat heh

Eh i still think combat should generally involve individual skill as well and not just be a group combat flexfest.

Also my other ideas were mainly for removing the attribute power creep that happened. I remember when 1k stats was INSANE back in the day. All these percentage bonuses kinda broke the game

[Potjeh]

Infinite stat growth is retarded, been saying that forever. It makes it pretty much mandatory to bot, because no real human can grind hardcore every day for months on end, so if you take a break like a normal human being you'll be left behind so no sense in returning before the next world reset.

Also, they could cap stats without a reset

[NOOBY93]

Infinite stat growth is retarded, been saying that forever. It makes it pretty much mandatory to bot, because no real human can grind hardcore every day for months on end, so if you take a break like a normal human being you'll be left behind so no sense in returning before the next world reset.

Also, they could cap stats without a reset

Wrong. Capping stats is retarded. Infinite stat growth is fine IF YOU CAN still be relevant without grinding like a retard. Basically, if stats are only mildly important, infinite stat growth is fine.

Here's an analogy: Pay to get advantage. That is retarded. Is it? I don't think so. It definitely could be, but an advantage such as faster tree chopping speed or 15% more LP gain are low enough that it really doesn't matter.

[Ozzy123]

so if you take a break like a normal human being you'll be left behind so no sense in returning before the next world reset

thats actually what happens to me every world since w7 hehh I find some new cool game, play it for 2 weeks and then there is no point to come back

[Potjeh]

If stat grow doesn't mean anything, why have stats at all? IMO uncapped stats could only work if you cap the delta, but that's been tried and failed because it made rage alts OP. But what if you needed to get a reasonably hard credo to unlock this cap?

I still prefer caps, though, because they can make gear almost as important as stats, provided the cap is on base attribute and gildings can take you over it.

[NOOBY93]

If stat grow doesn't mean anything, why have stats at all? IMO uncapped stats could only work if you cap the delta, but that's been tried and failed because it made rage alts OP. But what if you needed to get a reasonably hard credo to unlock this cap?

I still prefer caps, though, because they can make gear almost as important as stats, provided the cap is on base attribute and gildings can take you over it.

I argued the idea before to remove stats and make only gear matter anyway, so... yes. I agree.

[DDDsDD999]

The problem is that character progression is completely busted. Remove bonfires. Remove satiations. Lock salt and icicles behind things that can actually be fought for. Rest of it can be adjusted as needed.

Stat caps aren't the solution. I hate them. They impose gameplay in arbitrary ways, and are only band-aids to bad gameplay.