It ain't fair!!!!11one

[SmackMcBacon]

What part would you have to take seriously? How a wikipedia site (which alot of people use and take for truth) displays all types of 'prides' yet the only one that is evil is the white one.
That is all, you (and a whole bunch of people who woke up one morning under the banner of 'White Pride' ) are the one getting your panties in a bunch over it.
Which is hilarious tbh.

Also Sevenless, there's nothing wrong with being proud of what your skincolour, haircolour, background, history or whatever the fuck ever it is. The problem is others having a problem with it.
Why is being proud of being an American or Canadian so much better than being proud that you're white or black or asian?
By your logic I could (for example) be a Mexican and be offended by your Canadian Pride. Just be you and be proud of what and who you are, be proud of your background and don't let anyone tell you there's something wrong with it, it's all love or at least should be. You don't automatically hate others eventhough that's what alot of people unfortunatly believe.

[Burinn]

tl;dr
Man tries to make a racsiss point using really obvious subtext then pretends there is no subtext when someone tangentially calls it out.

[Ants]

Nice update and I like the hat

what a clownworld we living in

If you don't understand the difference in how people use those phrases you might actually be braindead.

Nowadays the most common use of phrases like white pride seems to be trolling people who get offended easily, not advocating white supremacy.

Anyways, it really is racist to treat white pride differently from other types of pride. Black supremacists have been using phrases like black power in bigoted ways, too.

[Burinn]

Nowadays the most common use of phrases like white pride seems to be trolling people who get offended easily, not advocating white supremacy.

Yeah, people are only pretending to be racist to troll people. That's probably true.

Anyways, it really is racist to treat white pride differently from other types of pride. Black supremacists have been using phrases like black power in bigoted ways, too.

People absolutely use other pride phrases in the same way racists use white pride. I'm not making an argument that the current state of affairs is "fair". Nothing about culture and linguistics if "fair". That's not how people decide to use and associate words. It is the way it is and no amount of lamenting that you can't use the phrase "white pride" is going to change the fact that people will associate you with ne'er-do-wells if you do. Treating people who use the phrases differently is a completely rational thing to do. You have to willfully ignore context to think otherwise I think.

[Mario_Demorez]

You guys need to focus on the word pride instead of the word before it. Pride can be good or bad. It depends on what you are prideful of. I like to say if you are proud of your achievements that's good. If you are proud of something that you didn't do then fuck off.

[MagicManICT]

Maybe it's my semi-Catholic upbringing, but pride is just bad. It's one of the seven deadly sins. A little goes a very long way, and any can lead you down roads of disaster.

[Ants]

Nowadays the most common use of phrases like white pride seems to be trolling people who get offended easily, not advocating white supremacy.

Yeah, people are only pretending to be racist to troll people. That's probably true.

It is. Saying anything positive about whiteness is a really easy way to stir the pot and rile people up. Example:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_OK_to_be_white

Absolutely. I'm not making an argument that the current state of affairs is "fair". Nothing about culture and linguistics if "fair". That's not how people decide to use and associate words. It is the way it is and no amount of lamenting that you can't use the phrase "white pride" is going to change the fact that people will associate you with ne'er-do-wells if you do.

Language changes over time. Queer used to be an insult but now many people treat it as a legitimate sexual orientation. The same thing can't happen to white pride until people stop getting their panties in a knot over the mere concept of it.

[Burinn]

Maybe it's my semi-Catholic upbringing, but pride is just bad. It's one of the seven deadly sins. A little goes a very long way, and any can lead you down roads of disaster.

I think the thing people are either unaware of or choose to ignore is that pride movements almost universally are born out of the fact that marginalized groups feel repressed in some capacity. A classic example is that many black women feel strong societal pressures to chemically alter their hair, wear wigs, ect. to meet aesthetic standards that they can't normally obtain. When your natural self is considered undesirable otherwise "wrong" compared to broad social expectations I don't think it's unreasonable for minority groups to feel that who they are naturally is acceptable socially.

White pride is markedly different in this regard.

[Burinn]

Yeah, people are only pretending to be racist to troll people. That's probably true.
It is. Saying anything positive about whiteness is a really easy way to stir the pot and rile people up. Example:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_OK_to_be_white

I don't agree with this, but let's assume for the sake of argument that you're right. Almost no one says it and actually means the content of the words. Despite that, the only people who use it are racists and people who want you to believe they're racist. And apparently OP who is upset that people blanket those two groups together. Is it now my responsibility to take the effort in differentiating between people who do and don't mean it in good faith so people like OP don't get upset that linguistics is "unfair"?

Absolutely. I'm not making an argument that the current state of affairs is "fair". Nothing about culture and linguistics if "fair". That's not how people decide to use and associate words. It is the way it is and no amount of lamenting that you can't use the phrase "white pride" is going to change the fact that people will associate you with ne'er-do-wells if you do.

Language changes over time. Queer used to be an insult but now many people treat it as a legitimate sexual orientation. The same thing can't happen to white pride until people stop getting their panties in a knot over the mere concept of it.

It's still not socially acceptable for a hetero person to call someone who is LGBTQ queer, so I don't think I agree. It's been mostly reclaimed by the people it was used to marginalize.

[Zyean]

I like to equate it to a TV show in a way, it's all about the people who use the phrase, or in this metaphor, watch the show

The people who typically (or are at least most vocal) about the phrase 'White Pride' are supremacists, so even though you might like to use it as a sense of being proud to be white, the general public will not see it that way.

Likewise, say you have a favorite TV show, but the fan base is terrible (Steven Universe/Rick and Morty comes to mind), telling people you're a fan of that show, especially online, might give people a first impression about you because you're associated with something that the typical (or at least vocal) fans do