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Re: Lord of Shadows asks for your decision

Postby NaoWhut » Wed Nov 18, 2015 8:18 am

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Did i miss the thread?

I vote you gradually move him into more
advanced enclosures with puzzles required
to move to the next one.

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Re: Lord of Shadows asks for your decision

Postby Tonkyhonk » Wed Nov 18, 2015 8:19 am

Archiplex wrote:
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do you really understand the potential impact of being bullied by the community instead of a certain group or individuals?


I've been on the receiving end of the spectrum multiple times before (in other places)

And again, while I maintain that it's morally wrong and you should never do it, in a game like haven it's not something we should restrict.

If anything, I just feel like this thread should have been in the Moot- since that's what I feel is the designated "horrible things happen" board of Haven.

what i dont understand at all is moderators go on merging sprees on many other threads with no malicious intents at all or just being naughty while leaving this bully thread as is. after all, you finding this okay speaks enough no matter you call it "morally bad".
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Re: Lord of Shadows asks for your decision

Postby LadyGoo » Wed Nov 18, 2015 8:19 am

bmjclark wrote:Compared to what we could of done to you, our leaving was fairly tame. You stole accounts from us in response. Also, you're really going to condemn this when your village was nuked for bug jumping this world? lol
Huh? You are saying the way how you acted about it was not cowardly? Oh, like you guys were not participating and supporting in bugabuse either? :roll: Moreover, you have stolen accounts from us first.
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Re: Lord of Shadows asks for your decision

Postby Archiplex » Wed Nov 18, 2015 8:20 am

Tonkyhonk wrote:
Archiplex wrote:
Tonkyhonk wrote:@Archiplex
do you really understand the potential impact of being bullied by the community instead of a certain group or individuals?


I've been on the receiving end of the spectrum multiple times before (in other places)

And again, while I maintain that it's morally wrong and you should never do it, in a game like haven it's not something we should restrict.

If anything, I just feel like this thread should have been in the Moot- since that's what I feel is the designated "horrible things happen" board of Haven.

what i dont understand at all is moderators go on merging sprees on many other threads with no malicious intents at all or just being naughty while leaving this bully thread as is. after all, you finding this okay speaks enough no matter you call it "morally bad".


I can't speak for the merging or anything since I'm not a mod, I imagine it's mostly cleaning the useless/spam posts or offtopic posts- I don't think any direct bullying that originated ingame has been purged.
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Re: Lord of Shadows asks for your decision

Postby bmjclark » Wed Nov 18, 2015 8:26 am

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bmjclark wrote:Compared to what we could of done to you, our leaving was fairly tame. You stole accounts from us in response. Also, you're really going to condemn this when your village was nuked for bug jumping this world? lol
Huh? You are saying the way how you acted about it was not cowardly? Oh, like you guys were not participating and supporting in bugabuse either? :roll: Moreover, you have stolen accounts from us first.


We've taken part in bug abuse, but we aren't sitting on the forums trying to decide what is and isn't moral for another group to do. Also, we didn't steal any accounts.
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Re: Lord of Shadows asks for your decision

Postby LadyGoo » Wed Nov 18, 2015 8:28 am

bmjclark wrote:We've taken part in bug abuse, but we aren't sitting on the forums trying to decide what is and isn't moral for another group to do. Also, we didn't steal any accounts.
Well, you are in NB thread + you have stolen Akyama Nobomuto character. If you do not consider this as stealing, then we have done nothing wrong either.
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Re: Lord of Shadows asks for your decision

Postby Tonkyhonk » Wed Nov 18, 2015 8:29 am

Archiplex wrote:I can't speak for the merging or anything since I'm not a mod, I imagine it's mostly cleaning the useless/spam posts or offtopic posts- I don't think any direct bullying that originated ingame has been purged.

im not asking you to speak for a mod, though. my point is that you dont mind this thread after all.
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Re: Lord of Shadows asks for your decision

Postby bmjclark » Wed Nov 18, 2015 8:34 am

LadyGoo wrote:
bmjclark wrote:We've taken part in bug abuse, but we aren't sitting on the forums trying to decide what is and isn't moral for another group to do. Also, we didn't steal any accounts.
Well, you are in NB thread + you have stolen Akyama Nobomuto character. If you do not consider this as stealing, then we have done nothing wrong either.


The char you gave to us? I guess. Even if we ignore the case where we left, how many accounts has apxeolog stolen?
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Re: Lord of Shadows asks for your decision

Postby LadyGoo » Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:05 am

bmjclark wrote:The char you gave to us? I guess. Even if we ignore the case where we left, how many accounts has apxeolog stolen?
I did not gift the character though. However, Nao has decided he has rights to change the password and the email. If so, the other character of yours was given to us as well then on your own good will! Nice to see that you have ignored the part about NB thread and decided to use something else as an argument.
As for accounts and walljumps, we were punished - lesson was learnt. It is least unlikely we will do it again. However, using this over and over as the major argument kind of shows you guys got nothing else to say and trying to catch any straw to keep your head over the river stream. Just in case I will make my stance clear. I personally never liked luring out people who trust you and do not expect you to back-stab or kill (luring an enemy into a trap is not the same). Many people have done oath-kills, trader-kills and etc. and it is a common practice. I would not say anything if Oddies would post about killing Frost post-fact. However, they have taken it to a new level of retardness, involving the community and making a vote-poll over killing someone.
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Re: Lord of Shadows asks for your decision

Postby Avu » Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:29 am

Lord of Shadows is attention whoring and you're all playing their game. They don't give a shit about the morality of killing frost and even if by some miracle the public decided to let him live, they'd probably lure 3 bears in with him and claim it was fate or some crap. Frost was dead the moment he decided to leave his village. LoS just made a show of it. And they've done worse to less deserving people. I'm not gonna cry a river over frost and nobody should. A dose of his own medicine might even make him realize actions have consequences but I doubt it.
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