It ain't fair!!!!11one

[Trappin]

In the US the Pride movement is used as a political tool, a wedge, to split Americans into competing cultural identity groups; a knock-on used by neo-Maoists within the democrat party to undo the notion of American cultural unity - which we used to call The Melting Pot.

The Democrats want us at each others throats.

US, UK and Oceania news and entertainment media apparatchiks expend much of their time and energy promoting identity politics. Example of such messaging; gender identity viz. there are 57 gender types and then that is further divided into LBGQT rights; transfemales should be allowed to compete against cisnormal females in sporting events or be allowed to use cisnormal female public restrooms (flopping their transfemale penis in front of your five year old cisnormal daughter to urinate.) And if one objects to such things they are negatively labeled as haters and transphobic and publicly denounced on twitter.

[MagicManICT]

In the US the Pride movement is used as a political tool, a wedge, to split Americans into competing cultural identity groups; a knock-on used by neo-Maoists within the democrat party to undo the notion of American cultural unity - which we used to call The Melting Pot.

The Democrats want us at each others throats.

Is it really just the Dems pulling this bullshit? I mean, I can pick up any podcast by many of the "conservative" podcasters and talk radio hosts and you hear as much from them that is just as much bullshit. If you don't want to buy into the bullshit, don't. Don't go making it worse by saying "I'm all pure of thought in the matter" and only be piling onto the cesspool that partisan politics have become, which you just did by making that post.

US, UK and Oceania news and entertainment media apparatchiks expend much of their time and energy promoting identity politics. Example of such messaging; gender identity viz. there are 57 gender types and then that is further divided into LBGQT rights; transfemales should be allowed to compete against cisnormal females in sporting events or be allowed to use cisnormal female public restrooms (flopping their transfemale penis in front of your five year old cisnormal daughter to urinate.) And if one objects to such things they are negatively labeled as haters and transphobic and publicly denounced on twitter.

If you're so wise as to see through the bullshit, then you should be wise enough to rise above it without calling it out like it was so dirty. You should see the gender stereotypes for what they are... modernist bullshit stemming from the Evangelical movement in the early 20th century. You shouldn't be coming off as afraid of those that are different thinking about things than yourself.

One of the things about the Libertarian movement from back in the day is they saw past the gender politics, stereotypes, and other bullshit and saw a future where nobody actually gave one rat fuck about any of it, and we became a greater society for it. Unfortunately, that message is lost on the Tea Party Republicans (at least in the US) who care more about Conservative Christianity than being truly Libertarian.

[Ants]

If you think white pride movements should exist then you must be seriously colorblind.

Have you read any newspapers lately? Seen any movies, cartoons, read books, played videogames or done anything media related?

Western society is largely composed of white people and in it's media most of the characters are white.

Even in other places of the world theres the problem of white washing.

Why the fuck we need white pride?

Because of people like you and your incapacity to see beyond your own bias and the brainwashing you receive(d) during school/college.
Let me be so kind to show you some examples and enlighten you on what is being 'washed' the past decade

Ah that great series Hollow Crown, I didnt know the queen of england was black, guess I got my history wrong huh

Gee, I didnt know Troy was a black man, did you? haha so progressive and amazing

I hear the great Wizard merlin is from Africa too, did you know? Well if you didn't then you got your history wrong BIGOT!

These are just a few examples, but there's plenty more and there's plenty more in the making.

Maybe you should watch some more movies, cartoons, read books and play games lmfao

The media is happily promoting gingercide!

[jordancoles]

Changing the race of real historical figures is bullshit I agree, but if they are fictional characters to begin with? Change is scary but if you are genuinely angry at a black santa claus or Ariel from the Little Mermaid I would suggest you take a walk to reconsider where you decide to place your frustrations

[HarryDresden]

One of the things about the Libertarian movement from back in the day is they saw past the gender politics, stereotypes, and other bullshit and saw a future where nobody actually gave one rat fuck about any of it, and we became a greater society for it. Unfortunately, that message is lost on the Tea Party Republicans (at least in the US) who care more about Conservative Christianity than being truly Libertarian.

The issue with the Libertarian Party as a whole is that we really don't like lining up behind people and we're constant victims of being No True Scotsmen. I've found that the AnarchoCapitalists have largely split from the main faction of the Libertarian party to form their own core group, but generally we agree on the same points; It doesn't matter what equipment you're operating, follow the fucking NAP and we'll be fine. That's generally the ideology I ascribe to and do my best not to get into Identity politics these days (Besides gatekeeping my hobbies, because I refuse to accept Gatekeeping as a wholly bad thing.)

The TeaParty Republicans have rebranded to "Liberty Hangout" types which namely follow grifters and ethno-nationalists.

[MagicManICT]

The whole Libertarian movement has changed quite a bit from back then. I'm talking about the ideal as expressed in writings from folks like Heinlein et al. At the core, it's still the same, but it's splintered and fragmented.

A lot of the tech folks have been mulling around a bit of a "Neo Libertarian" or "Techno Libertarian" philosophy where it's more social responsibility than the old line of thinking was.

And as far as the Libertarian Party... I still support them as a target of where we should be as a nation, but their ideals just don't work. They only work when all other things are equal (education, opportunity, representation, etc), and as we've seen the last 60-70 years, you have to work to force some sort of equality, and let society normalize around that, and then move a little farther towards equality... repeat as necessary.

But then, we're going to have to scatter to the stars and run into some sort of sentient ETs before we end racism among humanity.

[Potjeh]

The problem with Libertarians is they're basically anarchists but don't want to admit it. Always talking how all regulation is bad, and less government is always good, so logically no government at all would be the best. But people can screw eachother over even without violating NAP. I mean, what if you have a bunch of farmers in an area drawing water from an aquifer, and since there's no regulation on water use they use as much as they can to maximize their profits, and in the process they deplete it leaving them all screwed? Which individual farmer has actually violated the NAP? This is actually a very real scenario that's happening in California, ironically the state most often used as example of overregulation.

[Gray]

If you think white pride movements should exist then you must be seriously colorblind.

Have you read any newspapers lately? Seen any movies, cartoons, read books, played videogames or done anything media related?

Western society is largely composed of white people and in it's media most of the characters are white.

Even in other places of the world theres the problem of white washing.

Why the fuck we need white pride?

Because of people like you and your incapacity to see beyond your own bias and the brainwashing you receive(d) during school/college.
Let me be so kind to show you some examples and enlighten you on what is being 'washed' the past decade

Ah that great series Hollow Crown, I didnt know the queen of england was black, guess I got my history wrong huh

Gee, I didnt know Troy was a black man, did you? haha so progressive and amazing

I hear the great Wizard merlin is from Africa too, did you know? Well if you didn't then you got your history wrong BIGOT!

These are just a few examples, but there's plenty more and there's plenty more in the making.

Maybe you should watch some more movies, cartoons, read books and play games lmfao

You are going the wrong way with your argument, you picked the less important street of my discourse and followed along there.

So let me go meet you at that street and say: Yes blackwashing happens too, the media does what it wants to get people viewing it regardless of historical accuracy.

The point is, pride movements were made to fight against racism.
There was racism against blacks, racism agaisnt lgbt people, hence the black pride and gay pride.

If you feel people are being racist towards you and others you know for being white.

Then sure go join that movement. That begs the question, have people been racist towards you for being white?

[Trappin]

Well it seems Magic has sniffed me out. See, I'm not a Real Libertarian according to his narrow definition of the libertarian philosophy. Nope. I'm secret agent of the unpeopled group of White? (heterosexual?) Power Patriarchy and a follower of the medieval religious Cult of Jesus. This is the only time when stereotyping is appropriate - especially when libertarianism is .... distasteful .


Questioning the social and politival motivations of the LBGQT community is a verboten topic. Because the science is settled.

Questioning the social and political motivations of the Libertarian community is allowed. Because haters.


Transfemale athletes are breaking decades old women's track and field sports records and doing so on weekly basis. Transfemales are dominting womens team sports. That's okay? The last thing I want to be is a scold. Soooo... I laugh everytime a Transfemale drives down the lane and face dunks on some skinny cisnormal female. Now that's entertainment!

[Ants]

If you think white pride movements should exist then you must be seriously colorblind.

Have you read any newspapers lately? Seen any movies, cartoons, read books, played videogames or done anything media related?

Western society is largely composed of white people and in it's media most of the characters are white.

Even in other places of the world theres the problem of white washing.

Why the fuck we need white pride?

Because of people like you and your incapacity to see beyond your own bias and the brainwashing you receive(d) during school/college.
Let me be so kind to show you some examples and enlighten you on what is being 'washed' the past decade

Ah that great series Hollow Crown, I didnt know the queen of england was black, guess I got my history wrong huh

Gee, I didnt know Troy was a black man, did you? haha so progressive and amazing

I hear the great Wizard merlin is from Africa too, did you know? Well if you didn't then you got your history wrong BIGOT!

These are just a few examples, but there's plenty more and there's plenty more in the making.

Maybe you should watch some more movi es, cartoons, read books and play games lmfao

You are going the wrong way with your argument, you picked the less important street of my discourse and followed along there.

So let me go meet you at that street and say: Yes blackwashing happens too, the media does what it wants to get people viewing it regardless of historical accuracy.

The point is, pride movements were made to fight against racism.
There was racism against blacks, racism agaisnt lgbt people, hence the black pride and gay pride.

If you feel people are being racist towards you and others you know for being white.

Then sure go join that movement. That begs the question, have people been racist towards you for being white?

I have experienced it because I look white and I have seen white friends experience it, yes. African Americans in particular like to use words like c*acker and to say all whites are inherently bad. I've seen arab immigrants call whites "blue eyed devils". Some self hating whites who are deep into the social justice movement also perpetuate anti white ideology. Example:
https://fuckwhitepeople.org/

And here's a good example of an anti-white hate crime:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Chic ... e_incident

Changing the race of real historical figures is bullshit I agree, but if they are fictional characters to begin with? Change is scary but if you are genuinely angry at a black santa claus or Ariel from the Little Mermaid I would suggest you take a walk to reconsider where you decide to place your frustrations

I'm not angry, just disappointed. What's really frustrating, though, is that in the west when nonwhite characters are whitewashed there's outrage but when white characters are racewashed there's mostly silence. It's the double standards that are crapola.