Why Haven & Hearth isn't popular?

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Re: Why Haven & Hearth isn't popular?

Postby bojackson » Thu Aug 25, 2016 12:09 pm

Clemence wrote:IMO :
- there is not much to explore
- there is not much to hunt : in other games noobs spawn in zone were they can kill mobs, here mobs kills you
- there is nobody : in other games you got a chanel were noob can ask for help and meet others
- there is not social life : in other games noobs spawn in noobtown were they can make freinds and level together


+1 Bring back global chat (we used to have that in w7 right? I'm not crazy? lol)

I too have recently noticed the lack of global chat in game makes things really lonely. Compared to a few other games I've dabbled with over the last few years. Which have active chat in game, It's just nice to have, and even if I'm not a big talker in chat it's nice to read sometimes. Learn a few tips ect. It would probably help with community teaming up and interacting more. Have a trade chat, global chat, maybe other channels too.

Noob area could have some basic combat in it, tell the new player how to fight ants ect (give temp stats that are taken away when player leaves tutorial area). At least they can get a sense of how things work then. Could do this for other aspects like crafting (temp stats/unlocks to show players how things work later in game). Incentive to complete tut could be provided via 500 exp and maybe 200 lp or something. Just a lil boost.

tldr -
1. Bring back global chat, add trade chat in game.

2. Expand on tutorial/new player area, give temporary stats while in tut area so players can see how combat/crafting/building works later game. Let them fight ants/bats or something.
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Re: Why Haven & Hearth isn't popular?

Postby Granger » Thu Aug 25, 2016 12:39 pm

bojackson wrote:+1 Bring back global chat (we used to have that in w7 right? I'm not crazy? lol)

I too have recently noticed the lack of global chat in game makes things really lonely. Compared to a few other games I've dabbled with over the last few years. Which have active chat in game, It's just nice to have, and even if I'm not a big talker in chat it's nice to read sometimes. Learn a few tips ect. It would probably help with community teaming up and interacting more. Have a trade chat, global chat, maybe other channels too.


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Re: Why Haven & Hearth isn't popular?

Postby bojackson » Thu Aug 25, 2016 1:58 pm

oh were there issues in the past with global chat? I honestly don't know, I just remember it a long time ago being a thing. I guess that would be difficult to monitor, unless people could volunteer, but then how would they be held accountable ect. I dunno it would just be nice to have.

Gloria Victus has a world chat and it works pretty well, its even non monitored pretty sure for the most part. I've seen a few issues with people spamming nonsense but it works as intended for the most part. With that said Gloria is also a paid game on steam, aka no cycle of - guy flames, gets banned, makes free account repeats kinda thing, like we might see here. If we could mute people spamming mb? Do you think there would be bots to generate accounts and spam stuff still even with protection? I'm not sure how deep that all goes tbh.
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Re: Why Haven & Hearth isn't popular?

Postby Ysh » Thu Aug 25, 2016 3:56 pm

Granger wrote:
bojackson wrote:+1 Bring back global chat (we used to have that in w7 right? I'm not crazy? lol)

I too have recently noticed the lack of global chat in game makes things really lonely. Compared to a few other games I've dabbled with over the last few years. Which have active chat in game, It's just nice to have, and even if I'm not a big talker in chat it's nice to read sometimes. Learn a few tips ect. It would probably help with community teaming up and interacting more. Have a trade chat, global chat, maybe other channels too.


How to police global chat against the usual suspects?

Same way every other game is does it. Ignore function.
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Re: Why Haven & Hearth isn't popular?

Postby MagicManICT » Thu Aug 25, 2016 5:23 pm

global chat was a custom feature and it was basically an IRC client that auto-connected to a particular server and channel.
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Re: Why Haven & Hearth isn't popular?

Postby Gensokyo » Thu Aug 25, 2016 6:30 pm

MagicManICT wrote:global chat was a custom feature

no
it was in the vanilla client
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Re: Why Haven & Hearth isn't popular?

Postby MagicManICT » Thu Aug 25, 2016 8:00 pm

When? World 1, 2? It was never a basic feature in a client as of the time I started.
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Re: Why Haven & Hearth isn't popular?

Postby Gensokyo » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:20 pm

MagicManICT wrote:When? World 1, 2? It was never a basic feature in a client as of the time I started.

loftar wrote:Maybe I should mention that, as an artifact of old code scheduled to be removed, you can press Ctrl-C to bring up a global chat window. It kind of sucks, though, because only those others who also have the same chat window open will receive messages, there is no history (in the regard that you won't see messages sent before you opened the chat window), and it lives in its own window rather than among the other chat windows beside the menu.

I can confirm that it was in from World 3 to World 5, not certain about 6 and 7 but otherwise I was always a regular user of it.
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Re: Why Haven & Hearth isn't popular?

Postby dageir » Fri Aug 26, 2016 5:11 am

Global chat has not been used since world 5 at least. I have played since world 6.
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Re: Why Haven & Hearth isn't popular?

Postby Porterwake » Sat Aug 27, 2016 8:43 pm

Would like it more with a better combat system. I was got strong, spent tons of time mining, getting a base, but spent 2 weeks trying to learn how to use a fucking sword move and couldn't. No thanks.
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