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Re: Why w11 is bad

Postby Kaios » Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:48 am

Ants wrote:
Kaios wrote:If that’s what you think then why would you suggest for localized resources to change locations, if you don’t have enough players to control them why should you get access to them? That’s the general idea behind your argument yes? Fucking dumbass you’re just spouting out bullshit.

How can you not have enough players to control them? Just make some alts and fake villages lol. A hermit could do it.

I thought localized resources changing location would be a good solution if the devs didn't want people to claim resources. If they do, then we should be able to pclaim them.


Ok first of all you’re an idiot because I was just saying what you were saying and then you responded as if that was my point and not yours and second who cares about realism you said it yourself.

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Ozzy123 wrote:"being able to teleport everywhere instantly!!" sounds bad, I agree, but it is good for the game, it's just a game after all, people want to enjoy it, people want to meet their friends, neighboors, they want to interact with each others - right now it's impossible, noone even bothers building roads, markets have no customers, you guys need to fucking stop thinking about the REALISM and start thinking about whats good for the game and players.

This. Realism shouldn't be more important than fun.
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Re: Why w11 is bad

Postby Ants » Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:04 am

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Kaios wrote:If that’s what you think then why would you suggest for localized resources to change locations, if you don’t have enough players to control them why should you get access to them? That’s the general idea behind your argument yes? Fucking dumbass you’re just spouting out bullshit.

How can you not have enough players to control them? Just make some alts and fake villages lol. A hermit could do it.

I thought localized resources changing location would be a good solution if the devs didn't want people to claim resources. If they do, then we should be able to pclaim them.


Ok first of all you’re an idiot because I was just saying what you were saying and then you responded as if that was my point and not yours and second who cares about realism you said it yourself.

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Ozzy123 wrote:"being able to teleport everywhere instantly!!" sounds bad, I agree, but it is good for the game, it's just a game after all, people want to enjoy it, people want to meet their friends, neighboors, they want to interact with each others - right now it's impossible, noone even bothers building roads, markets have no customers, you guys need to fucking stop thinking about the REALISM and start thinking about whats good for the game and players.

This. Realism shouldn't be more important than fun.

There is literally no reason why a small kingdom like yours should be able to compete with AD or HH on its own though. AD and HH put in more work, so they get more reward.
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Re: Why w11 is bad

Postby Kaios » Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:17 am

Yes keep phrasing your responses like my kingdom are the only other players in the game, there is an entire population of players that can’t compete with these nerds.

Only people without jobs would say something like put the most work in, bitch it’s a game I put work in to work.
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Re: Why w11 is bad

Postby Ants » Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:24 am

Kaios wrote:Yes keep phrasing your responses like my kingdom are the only other players in the game, there is an entire population of players that can’t compete with these nerds.

They'd have less fun if everyone was equal because competition is an important part of this game. Why bother eating or crafting without it? :?

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Only people without jobs would say something like put the most work in, bitch it’s a game I put work in to work.

Then don't complain about not being able to compete lol. H&H isn't a casual game. There are some balancing issues, but someone who spends all day grinding should definitely be stronger than someone who spends their day doing something else.
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Re: Why w11 is bad

Postby Kaios » Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:27 am

There’s 200 people on right now and half of them are probably bots, the world started with 1000 and they dropped off like flies and you’re here arguing that everything is all good because you’re a spiteful person.
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Re: Why w11 is bad

Postby Ants » Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:31 am

Kaios wrote:There’s 200 people on right now and half of them are probably bots, the world started with 1000 and they dropped off like flies and you’re here arguing that everything is all good because you’re a spiteful person.

Things aren't good, but your arguments suck. You should be playing a casual game like minecraft, not an mmo.
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Re: Why w11 is bad

Postby Kaios » Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:33 am

Things aren’t good but everything is fine and this game isn’t for casuals but casuals can participate in siege and pvp if they want, you’re a real fucking trip
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Re: Why w11 is bad

Postby MagicManICT » Sun Jun 30, 2019 5:36 am

Ants wrote:
Kaios wrote:There’s 200 people on right now and half of them are probably bots, the world started with 1000 and they dropped off like flies and you’re here arguing that everything is all good because you’re a spiteful person.

Things aren't good, but your arguments suck. You should be playing a casual game like minecraft, not an mmo.

You're arguments generally aren't much better. This is one perfect example of it. It's not your place to dictate how much time someone should have to spend with a game. For all you know, Kaios puts in 8-10 hours of work a day, and 4-6 hours most days, 8-10 on weekends, on Haven.

Maybe everyone in this needs to take a step back ... or 10... and look at it from the other person's perspective. I'm not a fan of Kaios, and he's not a fan of mine, but I think he makes some pretty valid points in this discussion, even if not everyone can agree on how they should be solved. For that matter, I think most everyone has some very valid points and issues, even if some people don't know how to be civilized in expressing them.
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Re: Why w11 is bad

Postby Ants » Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:06 am

MagicManICT wrote:
Ants wrote:
Kaios wrote:There’s 200 people on right now and half of them are probably bots, the world started with 1000 and they dropped off like flies and you’re here arguing that everything is all good because you’re a spiteful person.

Things aren't good, but your arguments suck. You should be playing a casual game like minecraft, not an mmo.

You're arguments generally aren't much better. This is one perfect example of it. It's not your place to dictate how much time someone should have to spend with a game. For all you know, Kaios puts in 8-10 hours of work a day, and 4-6 hours most days, 8-10 on weekends, on Haven.

Maybe everyone in this needs to take a step back ... or 10... and look at it from the other person's perspective. I'm not a fan of Kaios, and he's not a fan of mine, but I think he makes some pretty valid points in this discussion, even if not everyone can agree on how they should be solved. For that matter, I think most everyone has some very valid points and issues, even if some people don't know how to be civilized in expressing them.

I'm not dictating how much time someone needs to spend on a game. It's possible to play Haven casually, but if you do that, you shouldn't expect to be as strong or advanced as the hardcore players who work hard to be the best. Teamwork and (unfortunately) bots also matter. Yggdrasil has coders, though, so I doubt lack of access to bots is their issue.

The core of Kaios's problem lies in the fact that Yggdrasil has only two or three semi-competent fighters. Even if catching up to titans was easier, they would still be weaker than HH and AD because they just don't have enough people on their side.
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Re: Why w11 is bad

Postby Kaios » Sun Jun 30, 2019 6:17 am

MagicManICT wrote:Maybe everyone in this needs to take a step back ... or 10... and look at it from the other person's perspective. I'm not a fan of Kaios, and he's not a fan of mine, but I think he makes some pretty valid points in this discussion, even if not everyone can agree on how they should be solved. For that matter, I think most everyone has some very valid points and issues, even if some people don't know how to be civilized in expressing them.


You wouldn’t be civil to a turd, it’s just a turd. Same concept here, I appreciate your backhanded support though I guess.
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