Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby rustles » Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:43 pm

shubla wrote:Devs are waiting for another pandemic before announcing w13!

But the next election cycle doesn't begin until 2023...
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Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby Overion » Wed Jan 20, 2021 8:38 pm

Dear developers, we love your game, but there is no desire to start playing on the server after a year. We are really looking forward to the wipe of the world! <3
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Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby begem0t23 » Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:05 am

I think world12 are fell by covid19 pandemic. We need wipe as soon as posible.
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Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby ctopolon4 » Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:09 pm

Overion wrote:Dear developers, we love your game, but there is no desire to start playing on the server after a year. We are really looking forward to the wipe of the world! <3

WHY?
wanna be raided? - post your coords on forum when you are ready
wanna trade? - start trade topic now
wanna spiral Q? -its endless feature, just not buy anything and dont loot abandoned places
same shit will start after 3 weeks of W13: "W14 WHEN?"

if you love this game - just play it
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Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby Chacer » Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:40 pm

ctopolon4 wrote:
Overion wrote:Dear developers, we love your game, but there is no desire to start playing on the server after a year. We are really looking forward to the wipe of the world! <3

WHY?
wanna be raided? - post your coords on forum when you are ready
wanna trade? - start trade topic now
wanna spiral Q? -its endless feature, just not buy anything and dont loot abandoned places
same shit will start after 3 weeks of W13: "W14 WHEN?"

if you love this game - just play it



This game needs a reset after one year. I think it is a game that should work for seasons of 1 year or so.

New players don't want to play in a world where veteran players have absurd stats and the world nearly empty of players with abandoned bases.

You just have to see the number of players online now. When a new world begins, the number of players stays high for 5-6 months +- .

Why start now?
If you want to fight, it is impossible against people who have been playing for a year. If you play to improve the base and resources, you find them abandoned, you don't even need to make them.

That is why I think that the game should work in seasons of a certain duration and a prize could be given to the players who endure playing all year. For example, a hat or something else.
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Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby ctopolon4 » Mon Jan 25, 2021 4:40 pm

Chacer wrote:New players don't want to play in a world where veteran players have absurd stats and the world nearly empty of players with abandoned bases.

here already alots of game mechanicks to catch up
most part of players are bored to eat after 2k stats (to much work to raise your combat stats by 50) [only bots helps, not so hard to make 10clicks instead 9999 to get yours daily stats]
fresh char could get 500 stats in a week (if he know someth or have money or friends) [not so hard to get 100each every day until 2000]
x2 stats counts as same in combat
after death you can do 50numens 1-2days and get 30% boost for fight

so you could make 800MC 800STRAGICON fighter + 30% in few weeks. and go for fights every weekend. all you need to know is how to run and drink to be not outnumbered and dead

P.S. most part of players plays FarmFrenzy until 1 raid, or dont know how to restore char, or too lazy to restore or even make stats above 200... so same shit will be in few weeks after wipe Image

here needs wipe every 3 month to keep online, remove credos wich takes too much time, remove sheep cheeses, other long term gameplay... and lose those 100 hardcore players who loves to play H&H not like a session game (who see that involved time means someth, and big projects can be realized, and them really love to spend time in H&H with friends)
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Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby Chacer » Mon Jan 25, 2021 6:21 pm

ctopolon4 wrote:
Chacer wrote:New players don't want to play in a world where veteran players have absurd stats and the world nearly empty of players with abandoned bases.

here already alots of game mechanicks to catch up
most part of players are bored to eat after 2k stats (to much work to raise your combat stats by 50) [only bots helps, not so hard to make 10clicks instead 9999 to get yours daily stats]
fresh char could get 500 stats in a week (if he know someth or have money or friends) [not so hard to get 100each every day until 2000]
x2 stats counts as same in combat
after death you can do 50numens 1-2days and get 30% boost for fight

so you could make 800MC 800STRAGICON fighter + 30% in few weeks. and go for fights every weekend. all you need to know is how to run and drink to be not outnumbered and dead

P.S. most part of players plays FarmFrenzy until 1 raid, or dont know how to restore char, or too lazy to restore or even make stats above 200... so same shit will be in few weeks after wipe Image

here needs wipe every 3 month to keep online, remove credos wich takes too much time, remove sheep cheeses, other long term gameplay... and lose those 100 hardcore players who loves to play H&H not like a session game (who see that involved time means someth, and big projects can be realized, and them really love to spend time in H&H with friends)


A new player, no matter how much he knows how to play, can never match a player who has been playing for months. Not only the statistics matter, but also the equipment, gems, etc.

All mmo have the problem of losing players as the months go by, that's why they put content patches and expansions that "reset" the player.

Haven and hearth is not an ordinary mmo. The content is, create your base, discover and improve your resources, improve your character and survive. The content is always concentrated in the first months of the world, which is when we are all equal and we are all discovering the world. Once the months pass, and all the best resources are claimed and the bases abandoned, the game loses his charm of attracting new players, so I think the game should work in seasons of a certain duration.

The rest of the games attract players back by "resetting" the players with an expansion. (they add a different maximum level for example). There are no expansions here. The way to reset is to create a new world.

Another issue is what type of content to add so that players continue playing for more than 4 months. Maybe soften death, add and improve dungeons, improve sieges and combat, etc.
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Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby yozzik111 » Mon Jan 25, 2021 10:43 pm

Bullshit number 1:
A new player, no matter how much he knows how to play, can never match a player who has been playing for months.

Let me interpolate it to something from real life. You, as a person with, say, a year of work experience, won't be as good as somebody with 5 years of experience. But in a few years situation can change significantly, and you attitude is what matters here.
And what you, my little commie, are saying is "make us, mediocre whiners, equal with dedicated players". And for what? What are the chances that this time you will own more land than a village with a few banners and won't be keeled as soon as you'll get Rage?
And this brings us to Bullshit number 2:
All the best resources are claimed and the bases abandoned

Then raid, you biscuit, raid them! Claims are dead, there is no competition for resources. This is your chance to close the gap that incinerates your ass way way faster - your q is not spiralling anymore.
And then, when you ate all the stolen carrot, big and bloody dangerous go out. You'll find out that the problem was not in the world's age.
Anyway, these forums already bear a shorter answer: git gud.
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Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby Chacer » Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:09 am

yozzik111 wrote:Bullshit number 1:
A new player, no matter how much he knows how to play, can never match a player who has been playing for months.

Let me interpolate it to something from real life. You, as a person with, say, a year of work experience, won't be as good as somebody with 5 years of experience. But in a few years situation can change significantly, and you attitude is what matters here.
And what you, my little commie, are saying is "make us, mediocre whiners, equal with dedicated players". And for what? What are the chances that this time you will own more land than a village with a few banners and won't be keeled as soon as you'll get Rage?
And this brings us to Bullshit number 2:
All the best resources are claimed and the bases abandoned

Then raid, you biscuit, raid them! Claims are dead, there is no competition for resources. This is your chance to close the gap that incinerates your ass way way faster - your q is not spiralling anymore.
And then, when you ate all the stolen carrot, big and bloody dangerous go out. You'll find out that the problem was not in the world's age.
Anyway, these forums already bear a shorter answer: git gud.


What shitty example, no offense.

This is not real life, this is a game. His main function is to attract players and have fun.

The data is that with a new world, for a few months there are a good number of players and then it goes down.

Its normal, it happens in all games. And that is why its normal to reset the world after a while, and even more in a game of these characteristics, where the world is permanently modified by the players and there is no cap on statistics / quality.

It could be discussed what would be the appropriate duration. And in my opinion, the way the game is now, 1-1,5 years is fine.
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Re: The only world reset/wipe requests/discussion topic

Postby Procne » Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:50 pm

I don't think arguments, about how new world gives equal chance to everyone, or how in the current world new people have no way of competing with veterans, make any sense. Those people will always be behind, and the new world doesn't change that.

However, I'm still very much looking to the fresh world, because of other people I can play with. That's the moment people come back to the game, and you can start fresh together.
One could argue that this can be done right now, without world reset, but to me there are some issues with it:
- some of those people might not want to play now, with world reset looming in the distance (whats the point if it's reset in a few weeks / months)
- some might still be playing or have old characters which they would prefer to play with, rather than start new ones. From what I have seen it's not very compelling to play in an unbalanced group, where more skilled characters feel they have to do almost everything (because only they are skilled enough to do stuff properly), and less skilled characters feel like they do not benefit the group much. Or the stronger characters "boosting" weaker ones by providing higher tier items and infrastructure
- state of the map - ruins everywhere, claimed resource spots

In general the first days of a new world were always the best ones in the game.
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