these midge swarms tho

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Re: these midge swarms tho

Postby Massa » Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:50 pm

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Massa wrote:What's wrong with them being anthills? 3-8 bee swarms when you raid it, easy and done, kill them off, take your wax.

Day 2 Level 5 mines, I guess.

They are such an entity that they shouldn't really exist, then.

They're just a way to surprise noobs into having 1 agility for 3 weeks or forcing them into suicide lol. What's exactly wrong with mineholes by day 2, though? What's wrong with mining and palisades. Why is there a limit on the timeframe that these things can commence?
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Re: these midge swarms tho

Postby Massa » Sun Feb 03, 2019 8:57 pm

Vassteel wrote:have you seen an actual bee swarm, or an Africanized super colony with 400lbs of bees? the Bees should be dangerous and I feel they shouldn't stop spawning more bees at a random amount.

Just because its early in the game dosent mean everything should be easy.


besides crying over lost alts is like crying over spilt milk, just clean it up and refill the glass and go about your day.

... How do you propose you actually engage this content?

A beehive will destroy even a 500+ UA character and shit its agi from the hundreds or thousands down to 1 if he just tries to fight it. Jorb and Loftar need to stop listening to guppy and minnow opinions like this and take the sharks who actually stick around with the game after the first week's opinions to heart.
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Re: these midge swarms tho

Postby Kirche » Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:01 pm

loftar wrote:They don't debuff you in any way

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Re: these midge swarms tho

Postby Massa » Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:03 pm

Kirche wrote:
loftar wrote:They don't debuff you in any way

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Re: these midge swarms tho

Postby Mafious » Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:31 pm

Btw you shouldn't need larvae for beeskeps thats just stupid you need swarms for beeskeps so the mecanic should be bulding skeps so after a X time beeskeps become fully operational hives.
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Re: these midge swarms tho

Postby Granger » Sun Feb 03, 2019 9:45 pm

Mafious wrote:Btw you shouldn't need larvae for beeskeps thats just stupid you need swarms for beeskeps so the mecanic should be bulding skeps so after a X time beeskeps become fully operational hives.

This.
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Re: these midge swarms tho

Postby MagicManICT » Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:20 pm

Mafious wrote:Btw you shouldn't need larvae for beeskeps thats just stupid you need swarms for beeskeps so the mecanic should be bulding skeps so after a X time beeskeps become fully operational hives.

If anything, when you build a new beehive, you catch a queen and plant it. When the fertile young female leaves a hive, a swarm forms and follows her causing the hive to split.

there's tons of information out there on beekeeping and apiaries--modern, "traditional," and ancient methods.
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Re: these midge swarms tho

Postby loftar » Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:32 pm

Mafious wrote:Btw you shouldn't need larvae for beeskeps thats just stupid you need swarms for beeskeps so the mecanic should be bulding skeps so after a X time beeskeps become fully operational hives.

We do intend to expand on the beeskep mechanic sooner or later; requiring larvae is more-or-less just a placeholder so that people who start farming only after we do that aren't at a horrible disadvantage to those who built their skeps with no such requirements prior to that.

We did nerf the bees quite a bit for W11, but I guess that wasn't quite enough. As for testing combat changes, to be perfectly honest I've pretty much given up on imagining my combat testing being representative of anything that actually happens in-game.
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Re: these midge swarms tho

Postby MadNomad » Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:32 pm

Vassteel wrote:im guessing you've never run into midges irl. they are by far the worst creatures on earth you get into a thick swarm and its over. they get in your eyes they get in your nose you'll get them in your ears you'll breathe them in if your moth isn't closed their horrible creatures


thanks for making me imagine this :roll:
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Re: these midge swarms tho

Postby Mafious » Sun Feb 03, 2019 10:43 pm

loftar wrote:
Mafious wrote:Btw you shouldn't need larvae for beeskeps thats just stupid you need swarms for beeskeps so the mecanic should be bulding skeps so after a X time beeskeps become fully operational hives.

We do intend to expand on the beeskep mechanic sooner or later; requiring larvae is more-or-less just a placeholder so that people who start farming only after we do that aren't at a horrible disadvantage to those who built their skeps with no such requirements prior to that.


Please add smoke or something to neutralize beehives, if you intend on making it "more realistic" punching a beehive its not how you do it. unless you are a bear.
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