It's a shame.

[ChevalNervous]

Hi there,

I have started playing a few weeks ago and I must say that the game is really fun and addictive but here's what I don't get:

The philosophy behind PVP and PermaDeath.

My friend just got KO'ed by gankers and then they blocked him to ensure he drowned and died.
What is the point of this? I'm trying to understand the philosophy here and to grasp why would the devs of this game want this kind of thing to happen?

Why would you want players to Rage quit ?
Why would you want the population to go down instead of going up ?
Why would you want your revenues to go down instead of going up ?

The game is amazing but the PVP makes 0 sense. While I agree that there should be rewards for downing players, it shouldn't mean Game Over for the player getting ganked/killed.
How about something like losing 1-5 all stats when you die instead of losing HUGE amount of progess or having to quit ?
The PKers already get to loot you and i'm sure they would rather be able to kill you again than to see you quit the game, no?

I am new here and i'm trying to understand ? Is my journey here already over?

[xdragonlord18]

What is the point of this? I'm trying to understand the philosophy here and to grasp why would the devs of this game want this kind of thing to happen?

I've got bad news for you: the developers do not consider the game holistically when designing systems for the game. This kind of thing happens because they don't even know what they want the game to look like. They design on a whim.

[yozzik111]

So you guys started playing this game while knowing it has permanent death. You might even thought it is fun.
But, as it always turns out, risky things are fun until they happen to you and not someone else. And then you start bargaining or just rage quit.
What I mean is git gud, be a man, take your risks and realise we're not that far to think of your character's death as something serious.
Otherwise, just leave.

[MightySheep]

95% of deaths in pvp are not perma death now, its actually really hard to perma die, there is only 1 thing still remaining in this game which always perma kills and that is anything to do with water, it kind of seems overlooked tbh especially since its the way most noobs die from my experience

he made a big mistake swimming into the river when he could have just gotten KOd on land

[azrid]

Never maneuver yourself to get KO'd in deep water.
Should be common sense even irl.

[ChevalNervous]

So you guys started playing this game while knowing it has permanent death. You might even thought it is fun.
But, as it always turns out, risky things are fun until they happen to you and not someone else. And then you start bargaining or just rage quit.
What I mean is git gud, be a man, take your risks and realise we're not that far to think of your character's death as something serious.
Otherwise, just leave.

I was under the impression that If I didn't train the PVP skill, I couldn't die.

So, avoid water and avoid players, ok.
Do you guys just play this game every day knowing you could lose it all unfairly at any moment?

[yozzik111]

Do you guys just play this game every day knowing you could lose it all unfairly at any moment?

Not to say I live a life full of dangers as a programmer, but look outside - you can lose it all at any moment due to coronashit or anything else. This game is pretty much realistic.

[Ysh]

Do you guys just play this game every day knowing you could lose it all unfairly at any moment?

I consider this cost of doing business. If I am killed I will rebuild. But I am just nab player, so I have not much to lose.

[maze]

Swimming Is death. if he had gotten knocked out on land he would have lived.

[SumFaggotPlayTester]

Do you guys just play this game every day knowing you could lose it all unfairly at any moment?

Just make foraging alts & quest during low pop for exp. Or grind exp with common tasks every few days. Just having a palisade, or double palisade, prevents 75% of the fuckery that can kill you from happening. You can go as far as just autologging & hearth vaulting all of your valuables if you get spooked. But yes, that is a part of the game. Keeps it interesting as otherwise this is an over-glorified excel number simulator where we all pretend numbers going up is fun. Stat grind go brrr

Think of this as a valuable learning opportunity for you and your friend. Also does not hurt to have copies of things you like to use outside of your pal. Hearthvault shit like that for your alts and you'll find this game piss easy if you want to avoid PVP.