Fishing with fishing rod.

[LaserSaysPew]

Is it completely random? I tried to determine some patterns but failed.
I assumed each phrase has a constant 1 right answer, 1 wrong and 2 neutral, but that's not the case.
Then I thought mb each phrase do has those constant answers but for each stage seperately(starting stage, lower stage -1, high stage +1). Once again, no.
Then: each type of fish has it's own right and wrong answers for each phrase OR those answers are generated randomly for each new fish that bites. Both are no.
Same fish(that bit, not the type) had different results for same answers for same phrase at the same stage.
The other 2 options are:
1. Each phrase has constant answers which depend on the answer you gave on the prev phrase.
2. Each phrase has constant answers which depend on the phrase that came before.
Both options also could be different for each fish type or could be generated randomly for each fish that bites.
Or it could be completely random. All untested options are actually not that different from random. But if it is: why do we have 4 options? Give us 1 button that will be generated all the same or make it auto, there's no difference.

Is it random? Does it have a pattern that is just bugged or smth?

[FTFMS]

Do you have some "raw data" from your research? Something like list of phrases, your actions and results. I'm also interested in fishing but don't have a rod yet.

[kilakan]

Here's a tip.... it's basically an identical system to salem's fishing as far as I can tell but with different 'phrases'

[LaserSaysPew]

I was going to collect phrases and answers but then:

Same fish(that bit, not the type) had different results for same answers for same phrase at the same stage.

So I figured what's the point.
It's either completely random or depends on the prev phrase/action, which is actually not better than random. The amount of phrases there are x4 in case of answers before them or even more in case of phrases before them makes gathering data useless. Even if you can gather so much(and it will take a while, since you can't just fill everything while fishing, you need to remember it all till you end fishing) you won't be able to use this info fully if not at all. You've got like 5s to find the right phrase, then the prev phrase, which you need to remember. Every time. Also all of it can be fish type dependent and that multiplies the info by fuck you times.

Here's a tip.... it's basically an identical system to salem's fishing as far as I can tell but with different 'phrases'

It's not. Salem had positive and negative phrases for each fish type. Here same answer at the same stage for the same phrase produced different results. First gave nothing, second caught the fish.



There was also another interesting moment. I couldn't move the progress either way for quite some time and had the same phrase pop up 4 times while being on the same stage all the time. I gave 4 different answers and all 4 didn't do anything.

[Sevenless]

Philosofishing as Jorb termed it is likely a similar system to salem's.

Each species of fish has a preferred response set. In salem, you were given random responses and had to pick one that the fish species you think you have on the line would like. You'd then adjust which answers you picked to the species as you got more clues (at certain points of progress, your character changes angle of rod, higher is better).

This system, assuming it's an adaptation, has each species liking a specific response to each question. Asp for example like "Pull up" in response to "Sweat trickles down your brow". However other fish species are neutral or dislike that answer.

That's as far as my wrist would let me get. I'm bugging jorb for some hotkeys for it so it's a little less tedious to play.

[LaserSaysPew]

Philosofishing as Jorb termed it is likely a similar system to salem's.

Each species of fish has a preferred response set. In salem, you were given random responses and had to pick one that the fish species you think you have on the line would like. You'd then adjust which answers you picked to the species as you got more clues (at certain points of progress, your character changes angle of rod, higher is better).

This system, assuming it's an adaptation, has each species liking a specific response to each question. Asp for example like "Pull up" in response to "Sweat trickles down your brow". However other fish species are neutral or dislike that answer.

That's as far as my wrist would let me get. I'm bugging jorb for some hotkeys for it so it's a little less tedious to play.

What about that then?

Same fish(that bit, not the type) had different results for same answers for same phrase at the same stage.

There was also another interesting moment. I couldn't move the progress either way for quite some time and had the same phrase pop up 4 times while being on the same stage all the time. I gave 4 different answers and all 4 didn't do anything.

Also, at one of my first tries, every time I went to low stage "thrashes wildly" phrase appeared and "Pull up" was a positive answer every time. But then at the middle stage "pull up" for "thrashes wildly" did nothing. So it's not only fish dependent but also stage dependent?

[khan]

Each movement of a char isn't tied to a single right answer. You need to get two/three for them to actually move. It seems dependant on the number of fish in an area for how effective the answers are.

Also, you're wrong about the same fish liking different answers, it was probably still a right answer you just didn't have enough to 'move' the animation along.

[LaserSaysPew]

Each movement of a char isn't tied to a single right answer. You need to get two/three for them to actually move. It seems dependant on the number of fish in an area for how effective the answers are.

Also, you're wrong about the same fish liking different answers, it was probably still a right answer you just didn't have enough to 'move' the animation along.

Nice thought! Missed that one, maybe you're right. Will check.


Also, sometimes I caught fish from middle position. And sometimes I lost fish without going lower before that. Is that a bug or do some fish are caught/lost from different positions?

[Sevenless]

@laser agreeing with khan about the movement. Most answers give small bonuses, and the total "score" required to get your rod to move can be 3-5 points worth. If the question only has minor good and minor bad answers, you could be moving back and forth in the same score zone doing that.

Also it depends on the power of the answer in some cases. A couple times you'll find a species/answer combo that almost guarenteed jumps you up to the next tier of rod angle. But usually it's something like 3 mediocre good answers per rod movement give or take?

Other than my experience with salem fishing though, the "different species like different answers" is pretty confirmed here for me at least. I've had the same answer cause both upward and downward pulls in different fishing sessions.

[LaserSaysPew]

Other than my experience with salem fishing though, the "different species like different answers" is pretty confirmed here for me at least. I've had the same answer cause both upward and downward pulls in different fishing sessions.

True, had the same experience. Same answers for same questions had different results in different tries.

That is quite sad btw cuz I can't see the way to use an info. Even if you have all the answers for all the fish, first you need to determine which fish you are catching right now. You press pull up and nothing happens(it was either negative or positive but you need several points before you'll see). So you're just randomly pressing buttons just like you did without the info.