Mixing quality swill in a food trough

[Biddas]

i'm not sure about this problem ,but i filled one time food trough with 17/26/26 quality food and got 100 units inside food trough ,checked with bucket and always getting swill with this quality ,after some time when it left about 50 units of food i filled again but with much higher quality like 36/38/49 and about 300 units of food ,and then i checked with a bucket and got again 17/26/26 quality swill ,what's going on here?Why it doesn't get higher quality swill when i filled it with much more and much higher quality units of food than i got before?i'm watching at this thing for a month and really can't understand ,seems for me mixing quality in a food trough is not work correct

[SpakyPD]

Its a rounding problem.

You are probably adding the higher Q stuff in small amounts that won't bring up the bulk low Q food on a single addition.

Try taking the lower Q swill out with a bucket, putting in your new food and then tossing the lower Q back in. It should properly average it then.

[Biddas]

Its a rounding problem.

You are probably adding the higher Q stuff in small amounts that won't bring up the bulk low Q food on a single addition.

Try taking the lower Q swill out with a bucket, putting in your new food and then tossing the lower Q back in. It should properly average it then.

read again please ,adding lower quality food is working well with mixing ,adding higher quality food is not working with mixing
i said before that added 300 units of food to the old 50 units and it doesn't raise any of elements into food trough ,but quality was really higher.

[Drevar]

The problem with troughs is you are adding one item at a time to the huge batch of swill. Even if you added 300, it is still being done one at a time. When you add a lower quality, the single item can create a decimal result that, whether it is .000001 or .999999999 is dropped by the system and you can lose an entire point of quality. On the other side, adding a single high quality item to the trough barely affects the quality at all. Add a single drop of red food coloring to a swimming pool...not much is gonna happen, and with the shit rounding any effect it does have is going to be less than what you would expect. It isn't a bug, it is just how it works.

To properly mix without getting ultra-fucked by the rounding system, you need a container that will purely be for mixing and will never hold more than one instance of mixing. After a single mixing remove all the contents and transfer to another container that will only hold the final product. No differing qualities in this storage container or you can hose the whole process! The storage container could be your working trough as long as it is emptied first.

To see the results you want to see, you would need to empty your trough and store the swill somewhere. Add in all the high quality stuff to the trough to turn it into swill, then remove and store it also. Then mix the two qualities in a second trough, one bucket of each at a time and move each mixing to the final trough. You can't just keep adding to the same trough because the crap you left behind will weight the average and you will continually lose a point here and a point there each time you mix.

[Carebear]

My experience is that it will all be set to the lowest value regardless of quantity.

So lets say you put in 1999 x 50/50/50 beets then add a 1 x 10/10/10 carrot. You will end up with 2000 10/10/10 swill.

So its better to dump the lower Q swill before adding higher Q to avoid it all be lowered. Might also be worth adding that this is not unique to Troughs. You get the same with honey, seeds, etc. Its an overall 'mechanic/issue'

[lachlaan]

It's been reported before and will probably be fixed some way, but until it does, try making a second trough for only high quality swill, then dump the 300 unit trough into the lower quality 50 unit trough, see if you get the same result.

[SpakyPD]

read again please ,adding lower quality food is working well with mixing ,adding higher quality food is not working with mixing
i said before that added 300 units of food to the old 50 units and it doesn't raise any of elements into food trough ,but quality was really higher.

Take out the bad feed into a bucket. Add all the good feed to the coop. Add old bucket if you need it. Rounding is the problem.

My experience is that it will all be set to the lowest value regardless of quantity.

So lets say you put in 1999 x 50/50/50 beets then add a 1 x 10/10/10 carrot. You will end up with 2000 10/10/10 swill.

While there is a possibility of there being a bug that is effecting your coop/trough, you are generally not even close to correct.

[_Gunnar]

So lets say you put in 1999 x 50/50/50 beets then add a 1 x 10/10/10 carrot. You will end up with 2000 10/10/10 swill.

Im pretty sure you will end up with 2000 49/49/49 swill, in fact.
If you put in 1960 50/50/50 and then add 40 10/10/10 one by one, you will get 2000 10/10/10 I think.

[MagicManICT]

If the numbers in the first post are accurate, then there isn't even an averaging calculation being performed. 300 of 50 and 50 of 20 should get you an average of 45. That is assuming you added a volume of 50 to the trough, and not 50 volumes of one. If you did the latter, see Gunnar's post above. Keep an empty trough to add your better quality fodder to, then dump from one trough to another trough or coop. You should see the overall average go up then. (For those complaining this is a new bug, it's not. It's how every other previous world I've played in worked, and that's since w3.)

[_Gunnar]

Some clients have a feature where you can add many seeds to the trough at the "same time", which might be what is getting confused also - I'm pretty sure that feature is just a simple bot to add all the seeds one by one, so it works like my second example.