Is it possible to actually use archery like archery?

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Is it possible to actually use archery like archery?

Postby Drevar » Sun Nov 01, 2015 5:17 am

32 MM, 55 Perc, Q25 bow, and I can't hit a rabbit from 5 tiles away.

Can a bow actually be used as a ranged weapon, or is it such a crappy implementation that it is only useful as a melee supplement and/or to exploit shitty AI pathing?
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Re: Is it possible to actually use archery like archery?

Postby mamotromico » Sun Nov 01, 2015 8:58 am

I dont understand why you are trying to hit rabbits anyway, but with 30ish mm and 30ish per and a q15 bow you usually hit realiably from a 5-7 tile distance.
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Re: Is it possible to actually use archery like archery?

Postby shubla » Sun Nov 01, 2015 9:01 am

Rabbits are good targets where you can try shooting with bow without risk of getting killed in process.
q23 bow with q15+ bone arrow should be enough to one shot deer.
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Re: Is it possible to actually use archery like archery?

Postby Sevenless » Sun Nov 01, 2015 5:42 pm

q30 bow, 30mm, 80per and I can hit reliably 5 tiles away, semi reliably 10 tiles away.

Point of note: I'm guessing one of the quality types on the bow may influence accuracy in particular. It's either Ess or Vit if it's not the average. I haven't seen any testing done on this to confirm where accuracy comes from.
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Re: Is it possible to actually use archery like archery?

Postby DaniAngione » Sun Nov 01, 2015 7:19 pm

My bow is q15 and I can one shot deer with q15-20 bone arrows. And they're dumb enough to stand still while you aim.

Why are you shooting rabbits anyway? Their loot is less valuable than the arrow :P (considering a good arrow) and you can easily catch 'em on foot or with a horse.
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Re: Is it possible to actually use archery like archery?

Postby Drevar » Sun Nov 01, 2015 8:20 pm

I'm trying to shoot rabbits because its only testing and they run when I miss instead of charging and KOing me. I've tried the same test since I've had 5MM and a 10Q bow and still get the same results. The times I tried on a fox and deer got me KO'd so now I test on rabbits to see if the better skills/gear made a difference. I've noticed none. I've stood right next to a deer, point blank, well into green accuracy and totally missed. Either I am totally RNG fucked or I simply cannot adjust to the aiming system and am doing it wrong somehow.
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Re: Is it possible to actually use archery like archery?

Postby Lorefin » Sun Nov 01, 2015 10:37 pm

Drevar wrote:I'm trying to shoot rabbits because its only testing and they run when I miss instead of charging and KOing me. I've tried the same test since I've had 5MM and a 10Q bow and still get the same results. The times I tried on a fox and deer got me KO'd so now I test on rabbits to see if the better skills/gear made a difference. I've noticed none. I've stood right next to a deer, point blank, well into green accuracy and totally missed. Either I am totally RNG fucked or I simply cannot adjust to the aiming system and am doing it wrong somehow.



Maybe it's because to kill a deer you need around 50-70 uac and similar amount of agi. Archery is balanced right now so you need the same amount of perception & MM to shoot fluently.
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Re: Is it possible to actually use archery like archery?

Postby Drevar » Mon Nov 02, 2015 6:04 am

Yeah thats my whole point. Archery as it stands is a supplement to UA or Melee, rather than actual archery. Yes, I understand why it is not a standalone solo one-shot-kill skill for PvP balance purposes. I'd just like to be able to hunt solo without resorting to cheesy AI exploitation and without having to drop 100k into another skill just to survive anything bigger than a fox.

Messing with the camera, it seems archery is better suited to bad cam mode simulating a 3rd person view. Too bad we don't have standard WASD FPS controls, or it would probably work great.
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Re: Is it possible to actually use archery like archery?

Postby dantheman540 » Mon Nov 02, 2015 6:45 am

mamotromico wrote:I dont understand why you are trying to hit rabbits anyway, but with 30ish mm and 30ish per and a q15 bow you usually hit realiably from a 5-7 tile distance.


Actually, I can one shot deer now and almost one shot boars too, and I've taken to shooting rabbits whenever I get the chance. I like to make Wonderful Wilderness Worsts, which are fantastic psyche food, but require 1 - 2 of most meat types, including 2 rabbit meat. Rabbit is what I am always short of.
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Re: Is it possible to actually use archery like archery?

Postby mamotromico » Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:54 am

dantheman540 wrote:
Actually, I can one shot deer now and almost one shot boars too, and I've taken to shooting rabbits whenever I get the chance. I like to make Wonderful Wilderness Worsts, which are fantastic psyche food, but require 1 - 2 of most meat types, including 2 rabbit meat. Rabbit is what I am always short of.


But its so easy to catch them using bunny slippers that you are just waiting arrows/time by shooting them.
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