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Question about mining

Postby Dakutis » Fri Apr 01, 2016 12:49 pm

Can anybody explain me how mining now work. I talk about ore ql. I played only in w8 so maybe I don't know something, but in w8 I haved mineholes to level 5 and ore/stone ql was something like that: 1 level - +10ql, 2 level +30ql, 3 level - +50ql .... 5level - +90ql.
Now I don't understand how its works. In the same place in level 1 i have +30ql, level 2 already only 27ql, in level 3 - 27ql too. I think if I build minehole to level 4 it will be the same 27ql. How get better ql ore, or even stone for stone axe.
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Re: Question about mining

Postby Thedrah » Fri Apr 01, 2016 1:22 pm

because nodes. quality nodes are random and you got some low q nodes on the deeper levels. dig more and pray to rng
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Re: Question about mining

Postby evilboy666 » Fri Apr 01, 2016 1:24 pm

Try to make your hole in a cave if you can. There are cave systems in every layer now and caves are similar in every layer. So from there you can search the walls and find the good q parts
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Re: Question about mining

Postby pedorlee » Fri Apr 01, 2016 1:35 pm

evilboy666 wrote:Try to make your hole in a cave if you can. There are cave systems in every layer now and caves are similar in every layer. So from there you can search the walls and find the good q parts


I can confirm you this is random 2. I saw a pic of a guy saying he discovered some ore vein in a lower level and when he made the minehole he discovered a huge cave exactly like the one he was in.
Ive done something similar and there are no caves around, just black tiles everywhere.

So that is random too. Some nodes have higher qualities, some lesser ones, you will find also hardness nodes with low q and with high q.
My best q so far is q63 in level 3. Lets see what the fate provides to us.

Its random bro, it generates as soon as you get into it.
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Re: Question about mining

Postby Glorthan » Fri Apr 01, 2016 1:48 pm

pedorlee wrote:
evilboy666 wrote:I can confirm you this is random 2. I saw a pic of a guy saying he discovered some ore vein in a lower level and when he made the minehole he discovered a huge cave exactly like the one he was in.

Caverns (big cleared areas) are the same on levels 2-5. Caves (thinner tunnels) are different on each layer.
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Re: Question about mining

Postby pedorlee » Fri Apr 01, 2016 2:47 pm

Glorthan wrote:
pedorlee wrote:
evilboy666 wrote:I can confirm you this is random 2. I saw a pic of a guy saying he discovered some ore vein in a lower level and when he made the minehole he discovered a huge cave exactly like the one he was in.

Caverns (big cleared areas) are the same on levels 2-5. Caves (thinner tunnels) are different on each layer.


A big nope. And i can show you a pic or made a video if you really need it to believe what Im saying. I was expecting that but nope.

But maybe since i made the minehole just a bit west of the big cavern (the cleared area) in the cave (thinner tunel) the generation has been different.
How many mineholes in different caverns have you made to get to that assumption?
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Re: Question about mining

Postby Glorthan » Fri Apr 01, 2016 3:06 pm

pedorlee wrote:
Glorthan wrote:Caverns (big cleared areas) are the same on levels 2-5. Caves (thinner tunnels) are different on each layer.


A big nope. And i can show you a pic or made a video if you really need it to believe what Im saying. I was expecting that but nope.

But maybe since i made the minehole just a bit west of the big cavern (the cleared area) in the cave (thinner tunel) the generation has been different.
How many mineholes in different caverns have you made to get to that assumption?

Two villages, down to level 3 in one and level 4 in the other.
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Re: Question about mining

Postby pedorlee » Fri Apr 01, 2016 3:12 pm

Glorthan wrote:
pedorlee wrote:
Glorthan wrote:Caverns (big cleared areas) are the same on levels 2-5. Caves (thinner tunnels) are different on each layer.


A big nope. And i can show you a pic or made a video if you really need it to believe what Im saying. I was expecting that but nope.

But maybe since i made the minehole just a bit west of the big cavern (the cleared area) in the cave (thinner tunel) the generation has been different.
How many mineholes in different caverns have you made to get to that assumption?

Two villages, down to level 3 in one and level 4 in the other.


I made the minehole like 12 tiles far from the huge ass cavern. They must be 2 different classes then and the generator must work acordingly to it.
What can happen if you make it in the middle of both?
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Re: Question about mining

Postby Glorthan » Fri Apr 01, 2016 3:14 pm

pedorlee wrote:I made the minehole like 12 tiles far from the huge ass cavern. They must be 2 different classes then and the generator must work acordingly to it.
What can happen if you make it in the middle of both?

To clarify, you're not talking about the first level? It seems to have different cavern systems.
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Re: Question about mining

Postby pedorlee » Fri Apr 01, 2016 3:16 pm

Glorthan wrote:
pedorlee wrote:I made the minehole like 12 tiles far from the huge ass cavern. They must be 2 different classes then and the generator must work acordingly to it.
What can happen if you make it in the middle of both?

To clarify, you're not talking about the first level? It seems to have different cavern systems.


Yes I do. I have a minehole inside a cave system. Ill paste a pic in 20 min about, let me edit this then showing it to you.
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