What are the restrictions to learning Cleave

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What are the restrictions to learning Cleave

Postby Webway » Tue May 03, 2016 3:08 am

I've been trying to learn cleave for a little while now. I've killed 16-30 bears, about the same number of moose, and four lynx (and some number that I let get away cause I screwed up 1 shotting and wasn't on a horse). I generally have a Hirdsman's Sword equipped and get 20+ IP and keep my IP above 10. I also frequently sit there blocking until a new move opportunity comes up (or I've been letting the same animal poke at me for 10 minutes).

Is there a requirement I don't know about for learning Cleave? Am I just getting unlucky? Is it just fairly rare?
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Re: What are the restrictions to learning Cleave

Postby ravenguard19 » Tue May 03, 2016 3:09 am

I'm struggling just like you...
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Re: What are the restrictions to learning Cleave

Postby Onep » Tue May 03, 2016 3:19 am

It's just incredibly rare. Especially since they made it RIDICULOUSLY TEDIOUS by only allowing one discovery per animal. Even when you could just reset the fight with an animal to farm discovery it took forever. Now it's just needlessly brutal. Honestly, hearthlings should be able to teach combat skills since they made them stupid hard to get.

I think this is a case of the devs not realizing the frustration and repetition it takes to grind it out.
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Re: What are the restrictions to learning Cleave

Postby Webway » Tue May 03, 2016 3:21 am

Well on the plus side all the stuffed teddies I can shake a stick at. :P

Thanks, better to know it's not useless effort (if annoyingly long).
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Re: What are the restrictions to learning Cleave

Postby Glorthan » Tue May 03, 2016 4:37 am

You shouldn't be able to get discoveries you've already learned, and should be able to have infinite of any move in a combat deck. Nobody decent uses more than one of each anyway. Problem solved.

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Re: What are the restrictions to learning Cleave

Postby Archiplex » Tue May 03, 2016 4:38 am

There is also an MC and possibly UA requirement that I believe increases the chances of you getting the attack- though it's arbitrarily tedious to do so.
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Re: What are the restrictions to learning Cleave

Postby MagicManICT » Tue May 03, 2016 5:59 am

Onep wrote:I think this is a case of the devs not realizing the frustration and repetition it takes to grind it out.


They are probably laughing at us because they know the triggers and we haven't figured it out yet. :evil:
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Re: What are the restrictions to learning Cleave

Postby jason1982 » Tue May 03, 2016 7:22 am

I don't know if luck or what but I got it on two charactors from killing mammoths
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Re: What are the restrictions to learning Cleave

Postby Hasta » Tue May 03, 2016 9:46 am

Webway wrote:Is there a requirement I don't know about for learning Cleave? Am I just getting unlucky? Is it just fairly rare?


Equip a sword+shield and [Think] it out of a moose or a bear. [Take aim] works too, i guess, but with less chance of getting [cleave]. Boost your IP to 70-80, if you haven't got a discovery, kill the animal.

That worked quite good for my characters and a few of my friends, as well. I personally got my first [cleave] when I was trying to kill a moose with b12 (didn't go as expected though, torn most of my armor in half that day).
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Re: What are the restrictions to learning Cleave

Postby JuroTheDragon » Tue May 03, 2016 10:43 am

Seems like I am uber lucky this world... I had chop unlocked on first ant hill at the beginning of the world, and same with cleave... First bear I've killed, unlocked me cleave skill.... xP

But you need keep trying.... stack IP's 50+, and if not enough luck, kill it and search for another one. GL!
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