How to fight

[avros008]

How can i kill bat without taking damage?

[borka]

http://ringofbrodgar.com/wiki/Bat

[Granger]

The combat part is outdated.
Currently it looks like doing Punch and 1 Quick Dodge alternately keeps it busy enough so it spends the IP it gets from the normal attack on healing instead of attacking.

[beardhat]

Like with anything now

Get good enough armor, and spam punch, don't bother with defenses, it just makes the fight last longer and you'll take more auto wounds

[gigafunk]

Which means you can't kill creatures till your way farther in progress than the old systems.


Lately I have been actively fighting...run in punch, ran away spamming defenses until opening are all closed and run in for another punch or two. It only works with slow things like ants, or in a boat...or my fav... I aggro bats and sprint to the cave door. Punch punch, run outside, close openings, run back in, punch punch, repeat repeat. Sometimes the bats deagro and lose a little of their opening, but just re agrro and keep going..a punch or two at a time.

Note, you can't kill ants fast enough to clear them to raid them, so this is not a way to raid...but it will allow you to collect moves and get your skills up to 5/5 or whatever you got points for.


I think maybe its balanced for PvP and so its whatever for hunting and that's why its so cumbersome.

I haven't got my punch above 2/5, I tginkbgetting a few keys moves to 5/5 may help.

[avros008]

Which means you can't kill creatures till your way farther in progress than the old systems.


Lately I have been actively fighting...run in punch, ran away spamming defenses until opening are all closed and run in for another punch or two. It only works with slow things like ants, or in a boat...or my fav... I aggro bats and sprint to the cave door. Punch punch, run outside, close openings, run back in, punch punch, repeat repeat. Sometimes the bats deagro and lose a little of their opening, but just re agrro and keep going..a punch or two at a time.

Note, you can't kill ants fast enough to clear them to raid them, so this is not a way to raid...but it will allow you to collect moves and get your skills up to 5/5 or whatever you got points for.


I think maybe its balanced for PvP and so its whatever for hunting and that's why its so cumbersome.

I haven't got my punch above 2/5, I tginkbgetting a few keys moves to 5/5 may help.

In w9 i can make block and animals attack to my blocks(each animals attacks difrent colors i dont remember which one use whik attacks) so i dont take any damage and punch the fuck out animals. But in w10 animals directly hit and wound defenses doenst matter so its retarded or i still dont understand the system

[beardhat]

Which means you can't kill creatures till your way farther in progress than the old systems.


Lately I have been actively fighting...run in punch, ran away spamming defenses until opening are all closed and run in for another punch or two. It only works with slow things like ants, or in a boat...or my fav... I aggro bats and sprint to the cave door. Punch punch, run outside, close openings, run back in, punch punch, repeat repeat. Sometimes the bats deagro and lose a little of their opening, but just re agrro and keep going..a punch or two at a time.

Note, you can't kill ants fast enough to clear them to raid them, so this is not a way to raid...but it will allow you to collect moves and get your skills up to 5/5 or whatever you got points for.


I think maybe its balanced for PvP and so its whatever for hunting and that's why its so cumbersome.

I haven't got my punch above 2/5, I tginkbgetting a few keys moves to 5/5 may help.

In w9 i can make block and animals attack to my blocks(each animals attacks difrent colors i dont remember which one use whik attacks) so i dont take any damage and punch the fuck out animals. But in w10 animals directly hit and wound defenses doenst matter so its retarded or i still dont understand the system

No, thats pretty much it, hit them faster then they can hurt you, its not a good system, but its what we got now.

[Hrenli]

But in w10 animals directly hit and wound

Only ants do it with their spit. The rest (have not thought trolls or mammoths though) never do any damage on first hit.

And it's not W10 change, the combat is here since early autumn already.

[abt79]

Maybe bring back w8/9 combat? This one sucks and taming is going to be impossible without boulder walls

[Necroliter]

So typical to blame system you don`t understand.

If you want to take 0 damage from fight - you need good UA/MC and keep your openings lower than 25-30%. I take 0 damage from bats with 30 MC+shield as long as i bother to keep opening low. And if you actually take 0 damage based on innate defense (not when armor block hit) - you do not take Grievous damage into HHP, that bypassed armor.

If you don`t mind cheesing animal to get 0 damage - use caves or that small underground huts, go in and out. Punch few times - go in - close all openings on self - go out - repeat. It works better than boat. With boats animal can`t reach you and run with relatively high hp.


Yet in general i prefer to put a LOT of armor on me and just chop animals to death, taking some grievous damage that heals pretty quickly (except Swollen Bumps). I only use defensive moves when my openings are more than 50%. Also i open with punches and keep some IP to chop animal before it runs away (or before i run out of stamina).

TLDR:
Higher UA/MC than in W9 (pre-change) needed to kill animal safely. Armor helps a lot and is not consumed if used properly. Small HHP wounds heal fast.

Hope it helped.