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Whirlpools

Postby VDZ » Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:50 am

(Note for those who haven't read up about whirlpools, it was already known that they damage your boat. Make sure to have your boat in perfect condition before entering one.)

I have experimented a bit with Whirlpools, and have concluded the following:

Each Whirlpool is connected to one other Whirlpool. Which other Whirlpool you end up at when entering one is 100% consistent. However, Whirlpools are NOT bi-directional (theoretically, there could be a bi-directional pair, but I doubt one exists). Instead, each Whirlpool only has a certain 'destination Whirlpool' and there is no other connection between destination and source Whirlpools. In other words, entering Whirlpool A leads you to Whirlpool B, but entering Whirlpool B sends you to Whirlpool C instead of returning you to A. Likewise, Whirlpool C leads to Whirlpool D. In this way, Whirlpools exist in chains, sending you to a new Whirlpool each time until one sends you to a previous Whirlpool in the chain.

Practical example:
The Whirlpool near my home results in the following chain:

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Whirlpool A
Source: None known
Destination: Whirlpool B

Whirlpool B
Source: Whirlpool A, Whirlpool D
Destination: Whirlpool C

Whirlpool C
Source: Whirlpool B
Destination: Whirlpool D

Whirlpool D
Source: Whirlpool C
Destination: Whirlpool B

If you were entering them repeatedly (fixing your boat in-between as otherwise you would die), you would go A -> B -> C -> D -> B -> C -> D -> B -> etc.


Map:
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Known Whirlpools
Whirlpool A
Location: (-27,70)
Source: None known
Destination: Whirlpool B

Whirlpool B
Location: (-27,-80)
Source: Whirlpool A, Whirlpool D, Whirlpool L
Destination: Whirlpool C

Whirlpool C
Location: (1,-98)
Source: Whirlpool B
Destination: Whirlpool D

Whirlpool D
Location: (69,-15)
Source: Whirlpool C
Destination: Whirlpool B

Whirlpool E
Location: (-72,72)
Source: None known
Destination: Whirlpool G

Whirlpool F
Location: (-72,71)
Source: None known
Destination: Unknown

Whirlpool G
Location: (-119,-104)
Source: Whirlpool E
Destination: Whirlpool H

Whirlpool H
Location: (1,1)
Source: Whirlpool G
Destination: Whirlpool I

Whirlpool I
Location: (-98,7)
Source: Whirlpool H
Destination: Whirlpool J

Whirlpool J
Location: (26,10)
Source: Whirlpool I
Destination: Whirlpool K

Whirlpool K
Location: (28,55)
Source: Whirlpool J
Destination: Whirlpool L

Whirlpool L
Location: (30,70)
Source: Whirlpool K
Destination: Whirlpool B

Unknown Whirlpool (reported by borka)
Location: (-118, 74)
Source: Unknown
Destination: Unknown

Known chains:
(Brackets indicate a loop.)
A -> { B -> C -> D}
E -> G -> H -> I -> J -> K -> L -> { B -> C -> D }

If anybody has an unlisted Whirlpool near their home, could you try following and mapping the chain (preferably with screenshots so I can add it to the map I posted)? I think if we get these properly mapped out, travel would be MUCH faster.
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Re: Whirlpools

Postby MightySheep » Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:48 am

VDZ wrote:(theoretically, there could be a bi-directional pair, but I doubt one exists)

Theres one right outside fire&ice (or w/e it called- the village on top of stonehenge) but itd be too much effort to add all the ones I know to map, maybe if it was an interactive map!

Also rapidly re-entering whirlpools can be a great confusing escape tactic but super risky, probably your chasers dont have that kind of balls lol. I'm not sure if its random dmg values but we had a guy who accidentally misclick to travel multiple times and his boat didnt break.
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Re: Whirlpools

Postby ninja_yodeler » Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:04 am

Interesting experiments! Would be wonderful to have a solid map of all of the fast travel points. I doubt anyone's made them yet, but I'd be curious to know if you can use other craft, and what happens to them, like Rafts with wagons/livestock etc. Could make for interesting and viable livestock trade.
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Re: Whirlpools

Postby MagicManICT » Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:31 am

Rafts might be ok to take, but knarrs might be a bit expensive to repair. Will be intersting to see how much damage they take.

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Re: Whirlpools

Postby borka » Sun Jan 22, 2017 12:44 pm

around here is another
http://odditown.com/haven/map/#x=-118.24&y=74.06&zoom=9

edit: didn't go in ... been mapping ...
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Re: Whirlpools

Postby iamahh » Sun Jan 22, 2017 1:19 pm

that would be a nice feature on the world map
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Re: Whirlpools

Postby Kaios » Sun Jan 22, 2017 4:54 pm

There are two whirlpools located in this small lake, -72, 71ish and -72, 72ish

http://odditown.com/haven/map/#x=-70.22&y=71.52&zoom=9
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Re: Whirlpools

Postby VDZ » Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:09 pm

Kaios wrote:There are two whirlpools located in this small lake, -72, 71ish and -72, 72ish

http://odditown.com/haven/map/#x=-70.22&y=71.52&zoom=9


I've tested one of them and added its chain to the OP. Haven't tried the other or borka's whirlpool yet. I did build a road at (-64,73) to allow easier access to Whirlpools E and F for people coming from the east.
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Re: Whirlpools

Postby LostJustice » Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:24 pm

Our village has mapped 28 whirlpools and we have around 47 discovered and approximate 60-80 whirpools. Things to note about whirlpools:

1.) 50% Damage * Number of People in boat (Aka two people in a boat or more means your boat will be broken when you go through!)

2.) Whirlpools cannot be effectively mapped as stated in this post. We mapped the whirlpools but within the past day they switched destinations.

3.) Whirlpools are not bi directional and completely random on destination and seem to change destinations on a bi-weekly basis.

4.) Whirlpools maintain the destination for all players. One whirlpool will always go to the same destination for all players during the two week period.

So sorry to say OP, within 2 weeks your hard work and effort will go to waste. :cry:
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Re: Whirlpools

Postby sMartins » Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:34 pm

LostJustice wrote:3.) Whirlpools are not bi directional and completely random on destination and seem to change destinations on a bi-monthly basis.

Wow...cool :D
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