Botting Questions

[Ants]

I don't know much about botting, but from what I've read it seems to be very important for large factions and a kingdom can't become the mightiest without doing it.

So I want to ask. What exactly do bots do, and how do they work? What kind of labors are usually automated?

I heard people use bots to fish and that there are scripts you can use to play certain songs, among other things.

[infectedking]

Bots can do anything you set them to from as small as:
-Run around shouting things at people

to

-Dis Mammoth bots that login every 15mins or so then scout the area and report their findings into their Discord chat



Bots also farm and craft and mine(mass mine) and do many other things, allows you to run a village with little effort, which makes it important to run such large scale operations such as factions.

[MagicManICT]

You can do literally anything with a bot. There are no explicit rules forbidding them. The dev stance is "If people tend to want to run bots to do X, then the mechanic isn't fun and needs to be reworked." The only limit is your skill as a programmer.

Do note if you do anything that causes undue stress on the server, you could be asked to shut it down, modify it so it doesn't cause problems, or can expect patches to break the bot. Anything malicious may end up getting accounts banned or deleted or in game assets destroyed.

[stya]

You can do literally anything with a bot. There are no explicit rules forbidding them. The dev stance is "If people tend to want to run bots to do X, then the mechanic isn't fun and needs to be reworked." The only limit is your skill as a programmer.

Do note if you do anything that causes undue stress on the server, you could be asked to shut it down, modify it so it doesn't cause problems, or can expect patches to break the bot. Anything malicious may end up getting accounts banned or deleted or in game assets destroyed.

Some corrections, they clearly said they don't want to see us botting realm auth, whoever does that will get like nuked. And I also think (not 100% sure) they would not accept fully automated combat bots.

[Ants]

Is there a place where people download their bots, or does every big faction have a programmer of their own?

I'm not a fan of botting, but if it's treated as an important part of the game by the devs we should probably have a repository for those kinds of programs along with some botting guides. Otherwise it's not fair to the noobs.

[newaccountlol]

Is there a place where people download their bots, or does every big faction have a programmer of their own?

I'm not a fan of botting, but if it's treated as an important part of the game by the devs we should probably have a repository for those kinds of programs along with some botting guides. Otherwise it's not fair to the noobs.

They program their own as far as I know, making programmers extremely powerful/sought after. Some clients have scripts to automate stuff like foraging and digging but I wouldn't call it botting. There is at least one bot client available to the public but it still requires you to write your own scripts to actually make it do anything.

Even a good programmer would still have to put a lot of work into making a good bot, spend lots of time learning the game mechanics, and already spent lots of time learning the technical skills required. So in that respect I think they are at least somewhat deserving of their power and what they choose to do with it.

I agree it's not fair but I don't think releasing bots to the public would be a good thing. For one, why should somebody be rewarded from the hard work of others who spent tons of time learning these skills then programming the bots? Two, I think everyone botting would just start to kill the spirit of the game rather than make it fair.

If you really want to compete with the most powerful villages there is nothing stopping you from recruiting your own programmer or making your own client. If you aren't willing to go through the trouble of doing that then you would never stand a chance against these groups anyway, even if they weren't botting. These are people who understand strength in numbers and have been playing for many worlds, most of them are ambitious and play a hardcore schedule, and they understand the game mechanics more than most players. You have a massive hurdle to overcome regardless of botting.

[MagicManICT]

Thanks, stya. Yeah, I had forgotten about the XP botting thing as it's not hard to have some sort of XP farm to use to stimulate XP events. I'm not sure anyone could make a truly efficient combat bot, but I can see one that'd beat most average players.

@Ants: back in legacy, there was a public client with a scripting interface, and there were several good bots available. So far I'm not sure anyone has released anything to the public, but there are programs that can be used to create macros like AutoHotKey so that you don't need a special client, but then it's not as efficient running on the computer.

[Potjeh]

I agree it's not fair but I don't think releasing bots to the public would be a good thing. For one, why should somebody be rewarded from the hard work of others who spent tons of time learning these skills then programming the bots?

Why should somebody be rewarded for the hard work of modders in other games? Clearly mods should all be paid DLC

[newaccountlol]

I agree it's not fair but I don't think releasing bots to the public would be a good thing. For one, why should somebody be rewarded from the hard work of others who spent tons of time learning these skills then programming the bots?

Why should somebody be rewarded for the hard work of modders in other games? Clearly mods should all be paid DLC

There is a huge difference. Modding improves the single player experience for everyone and is shared out of mutual love for a game. It has nothing to do with an MMO where your success is your comparison to other players and where unfair rewards directly harm the balance and fun of the game.

Obviously botting could be considered unfair rewards but at least they had to do lots of work to get it working right, balancing it out a bit. Botters having an advantage as a result of their dedication to botting is way better than letting any random person run a bot they didn't make, destroying any remaining balance of skill/reward and creating reward by simply running a program while AFK.

[Headchef]

Original client should be improved upon a lot and eventually I think it should be easy for the game to detect which client player is using and enforcing permanent/+ip bans when found it is not the original one.

Currently original client is too shit to enforce this and it would probably half the playerbase.