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what is minimum required of abilities to fight any creature?

Postby dunno6988 » Sun Oct 22, 2017 3:46 pm

Just wondering what is the minimum of unarmed combat, melee combat and marksmanship to fight anything on 1 vs 1 combat maybe even trolls to the point that there's no need to go any higher, is it 300 for each more?
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Re: what is minimum required of abilities to fight any creat

Postby Granger » Sun Oct 22, 2017 4:01 pm

Minimum is 1 for stuff that dosn't fight back (for practice, like chicken, rabbits, frogs), with a character at ~150 in everything I can kill everything except mammoth and troll.
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Re: what is minimum required of abilities to fight any creat

Postby blank » Mon Oct 23, 2017 12:56 pm

dunno6988 wrote:Just wondering what is the minimum of unarmed combat, melee combat and marksmanship to fight anything on 1 vs 1 combat maybe even trolls to the point that there's no need to go any higher, is it 300 for each more?



with mammoth i would say around 1000 mc/ and or ua ( you only need to put point in one of these, if you use mc maneuver and put points in ua it is wasted unless you have maybe some ua moves in your deck.

and around 1000 str con and agil for mammoth
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Re: what is minimum required of abilities to fight any creat

Postby RedSkies » Mon Oct 23, 2017 1:28 pm

blank wrote:
with mammoth i would say around 1000 mc/ and or ua ( you only need to put point in one of these, if you use mc maneuver and put points in ua it is wasted unless you have maybe some ua moves in your deck.

and around 1000 str con and agil for mammoth


Unless you cheese. 250-300 stats in my experience can easily kill mammoths if you do it right. You can't just facetank them. Troll strength varies by what level they're on, but if you have a group of people to help, you don't have to have crazy stats to kill.
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Re: what is minimum required of abilities to fight any creat

Postby blank » Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:06 pm

RedSkies wrote:
blank wrote:
with mammoth i would say around 1000 mc/ and or ua ( you only need to put point in one of these, if you use mc maneuver and put points in ua it is wasted unless you have maybe some ua moves in your deck.

and around 1000 str con and agil for mammoth


Unless you cheese. 250-300 stats in my experience can easily kill mammoths if you do it right. You can't just facetank them. Troll strength varies by what level they're on, but if you have a group of people to help, you don't have to have crazy stats to kill.


meh i still find trolls on lvl 5 cave Q85 only need like 2 ppl around 1000 stats as well

and gl with fighting mammoth solo with 300 stats XD
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Re: what is minimum required of abilities to fight any creat

Postby Razzbane » Mon Oct 23, 2017 3:40 pm

blank wrote:
RedSkies wrote:
blank wrote:
with mammoth i would say around 1000 mc/ and or ua ( you only need to put point in one of these, if you use mc maneuver and put points in ua it is wasted unless you have maybe some ua moves in your deck.

and around 1000 str con and agil for mammoth


Unless you cheese. 250-300 stats in my experience can easily kill mammoths if you do it right. You can't just facetank them. Troll strength varies by what level they're on, but if you have a group of people to help, you don't have to have crazy stats to kill.


meh i still find trolls on lvl 5 cave Q85 only need like 2 ppl around 1000 stats as well

and gl with fighting mammoth solo with 300 stats XD


i killed mammoth with 200 stats ;)
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Re: what is minimum required of abilities to fight any creat

Postby MagicManICT » Mon Oct 23, 2017 5:29 pm

Razzbane wrote:i killed mammoth with 200 stats


Pics or it didn't happen. :P

My understanding with mammoths is it's hard to set up an area to pull this off so that you don't get hit by their ranged attack when trying to drop openings, not so much that it's just not doable at less than 1000 stats.
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Re: what is minimum required of abilities to fight any creat

Postby magisticus » Mon Oct 23, 2017 6:28 pm

blank wrote:
dunno6988 wrote:Just wondering what is the minimum of unarmed combat, melee combat and marksmanship to fight anything on 1 vs 1 combat maybe even trolls to the point that there's no need to go any higher, is it 300 for each more?



with mammoth i would say around 1000 mc/ and or ua ( you only need to put point in one of these, if you use mc maneuver and put points in ua it is wasted unless you have maybe some ua moves in your deck.

and around 1000 str con and agil for mammoth


I've been doing mammoths successfully since 600 mc, using quick barrage and cleave with shield up - their normal hit is pretty tame but they occassionally hit hard - you just have to take down quickly. Still occassionally have some healing to do at 1000mc though.
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Re: what is minimum required of abilities to fight any creat

Postby Razzbane » Mon Oct 23, 2017 7:57 pm

MagicManICT wrote:
Razzbane wrote:i killed mammoth with 200 stats


Pics or it didn't happen. :P

My understanding with mammoths is it's hard to set up an area to pull this off so that you don't get hit by their ranged attack when trying to drop openings, not so much that it's just not doable at less than 1000 stats.


I'm thinking about making video tutorial, i'll show how to kill it with 250 stats (200 stats is risky a bit - his "wizard" attack is dangerous) but its doable with good eq.
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Re: what is minimum required of abilities to fight any creat

Postby Razzbane » Sat Nov 04, 2017 8:15 pm

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Easy AF

P.S. I was too lazy to make tut, but it's easy. Parry + sting + SoS. Nothing more required.
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