What is the exact science of the Paint Sketch?

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What is the exact science of the Paint Sketch?

Postby Infinity-Production » Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:13 am

So i wanted to make a nice storage area for food and i was planning on marking out sections of it for different stats.
So i made these

Int
Image

Psy
Image


I tried to make them as cheap as possible but for some reason the amount of linced oil is much higher one of them and i cant figure it out.
Int is 395 oil
but
Psy is 1525 oil
Except for the letters they are identical.
Now this makes me wonder, how do i get all of them to be as cheap as the less costly one?
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Re: What is the exact science of the Paint Sketch?

Postby The_Blode » Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:39 am

-Upload your base image to your HnH account
-Click on the image in your account after you've uploaded it
-save this version of the image
-go into the image in paint or whatever:
---change as many colors to solid as possible using the eyedropper to perfectly match color, no tiny chunks of orange on the edge of red for example
--connect identical colors where possible, for example the gray shadow should be all connected by a single pixel bridge at least so it's considered one giant 'shape' of gray

try the new image on your account
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Re: What is the exact science of the Paint Sketch?

Postby Infinity-Production » Sun Mar 04, 2018 4:08 am

The_Blode wrote:-Upload your base image to your HnH account
-Click on the image in your account after you've uploaded it
-save this version of the image
-go into the image in paint or whatever:
---change as many colors to solid as possible using the eyedropper to perfectly match color, no tiny chunks of orange on the edge of red for example
--connect identical colors where possible, for example the gray shadow should be all connected by a single pixel bridge at least so it's considered one giant 'shape' of gray

try the new image on your account

That dosent really explain the masive diffrence in linced oil between these 2 pictures... that im trying to figure out.
These picture have maybe 1 or 2 drops of pink and orange, that do not really bother me.
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Re: What is the exact science of the Paint Sketch?

Postby Teleskop » Sun Mar 04, 2018 4:13 am

its about countours,jorb explained it well in the topic that introduced the mechanic

take your pictures and put them on photoshop and save them as png with 3 colours (one more colour than is used because alpha channel also counts as a color)
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Re: What is the exact science of the Paint Sketch?

Postby The_Blode » Sun Mar 04, 2018 4:38 pm

Infinity-Production wrote:That dosent really explain the masive diffrence in linced oil between these 2 pictures

(sic)

i have no idea how the resource requirements are determined when it comes to the raw numbers, but hypothetically, if every 'field' (section of one particular color) increases the cost of linseed oil, you want to minimize those instances of single-pixel 'fields' of color wherever possible, and link up the identical fields where possible to turn 2 into 1. I took an image that cost 1.5k(!) linseed and dropped it down to 45(!!!) by following my guide above. Tons of single purple or orange pixels scattered about in the contours, but all it took was a quick zoom in with paint and recoloring them to one of the adjacent 'main' colors.

tl;dr my process perfectly explains why there's a massive difference
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Re: What is the exact science of the Paint Sketch?

Postby Infinity-Production » Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:06 pm

The_Blode wrote:
Infinity-Production wrote:That dosent really explain the masive diffrence in linced oil between these 2 pictures

(sic)

i have no idea how the resource requirements are determined when it comes to the raw numbers, but hypothetically, if every 'field' (section of one particular color) increases the cost of linseed oil, you want to minimize those instances of single-pixel 'fields' of color wherever possible, and link up the identical fields where possible to turn 2 into 1. I took an image that cost 1.5k(!) linseed and dropped it down to 45(!!!) by following my guide above. Tons of single purple or orange pixels scattered about in the contours, but all it took was a quick zoom in with paint and recoloring them to one of the adjacent 'main' colors.

tl;dr my process perfectly explains why there's a massive difference

haha sorry it is a bit hard to understand, sins i do not work at all with paint or other graphic programs, i just recently tried with these to make a blank background.
Are you familiar with Paint.Net? Maybe you can guide me through it if you have the time ^^
I would love to find that way to save it as a 3 colour png
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Re: What is the exact science of the Paint Sketch?

Postby The_Blode » Sun Mar 04, 2018 9:35 pm

Infinity-Production wrote:haha sorry it is a bit hard to understand, sins i do not work at all with paint or other graphic programs, i just recently tried with these to make a blank background.
Are you familiar with Paint.Net? Maybe you can guide me through it if you have the time ^^
I would love to find that way to save it as a 3 colour png


I just went into basic microsoft paint and edited my stuff by hand with the pencil tool and eyedropper/color selector tool, as i previously outlined. Beyond that, I feel it's overcomplicating things. I don't know anything about what skop was talking about
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Re: What is the exact science of the Paint Sketch?

Postby Flyrella » Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:45 pm

Infinity-Production wrote:

1. Cuz your images are 500x500. Make their canvas 512x512, then they won't be stretched. When images with limited palette are stretched, they will give you lots of unneeded pixels of random colors which increase amount of contours a lot
2. In addition, I checked your pic, and it has lots of intermediate colors so you would never know how it would be converted into limited palette pic. Make it 2 color gif and you would need like 15 times less oil

top one - is what you uploaded
bottom one - is the pic after changing canvas size to 512x512 and 2 colors

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Re: What is the exact science of the Paint Sketch?

Postby SlicingTheMoon » Mon Mar 05, 2018 5:12 am

The_Blode wrote:I just went into basic microsoft paint and edited my stuff by hand with the pencil tool and eyedropper/color selector tool, as i previously outlined. Beyond that, I feel it's overcomplicating things. I don't know anything about what skop was talking about

How do you keep a blank background with Microsoft paint? When ever i try to edit it with paint the blank background turns white.
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Re: What is the exact science of the Paint Sketch? (solved)

Postby Infinity-Production » Mon Mar 05, 2018 6:09 am

Hey guys i think I managed to figure it out with all your help.

The problem was fixed by changing the text from "Smooth" to "Sharp".¨
By doing this i managed to reduce it to only 2 colors and with that remove the extra cost of the oil.

Great thanks to everyone who helped me here ^^
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