Quest Giver Bearing Marker Best Practices?

[qoonpooka]

What's the best way to get a bearing from those markers. I notice that they adjust rapidly even from great distances but then snap back to a point after you've traveled a certain distance. Is there any way to read the actual bearing to the quest giver?

I'd love to be able to estimate what kind of a trip I'm in for, and/or compare my estimated location for the QG with the map to determine if the trip is horse or knarr...

Right now my best estimates are still 10-25 grids off...


------- EDIT FOR CLARITY ------

Okay, a lot of people are answering things aside from the question I'm asking. So let's try this again, now with diagram!



I am asking about the RED arrow, the one that says "THIS ONE" next to it. Note that it points to a bearing marker that shows the way one should travel to reach the quest giver.

In order to triangulate using that, I need to be able to interpret it.

The LAVENDER arrow (pointing up and to the right) is the direction of NORTH.

The BLACK arrow (pointing down and to the right from the character) is the direction of EAST.

Obviously, this particularly quest marker is pointing some flavor of NNE, ENE, or NE, but those are decidedly imprecise. The actual bearing is somewhere between 0 and 90 degrees.

Eyeballing it is no good, because north does NOT point to the top right corner of my screen, it points about two inches down the right side of my monitor instead, so I don't have good reference points. How do I take a more exact bearing from that marker? (I happen to know, because I know that quest giver pretty well, that this particular marker denotes a bearing of roughly 50 degrees, but I want to be able to roughly position and rangefind on quest givers I haven't met yet, where I won't be able to check the map to get an exact bearing as I have done here.)

I know all about triangulation. That's the method I'm using. But that only works with good angles, how do I get the angle from this marker?

[Granger]

Use a long distance crossroad to triangulate.

[Aceb]

Use a long distance crossroad to triangulate.

Either this or get a load of boards and use whirlpools while remembering / writing down cords and direction of pointing.

[qoonpooka]

Use a long distance crossroad to triangulate.

You've skipped ahead of me.

Triangulation requires I first take a bearing from my current position. The bearing marker is proving to be MAGNIFICENTLY unreliable and inaccurate. Off by double-digit degrees at times.

When I move, it moves WAY more than it should, and then snaps back to it's original position. I'm asking about how to take that initial bearing so that I CAN triangulate.

[AntiBlitz]

if you angle the screen and go up a couple grids or so while watching the quest marker move down the left or right side of the monitor, you can take a wild guess thats its close, but if it doesnt even budge, you are in for a fucking haul.

im not sure there isnt any honest method to the madness, its mostly just guess work. You know when you are pretty close tho, as it moves pretty spastic when you have it on the side of the monitor while moving at an angle.

[vatas]

Nomad quests always give you a long haul. If you're using Amber of any derived client, you can see your current position coordinates by hovering over one of the minimap buttons and even click it to open Odditown Map centered to said coordinates.

[qoonpooka]

Nomad quests always give you a long haul. If you're using Amber of any derived client, you can see your current position coordinates by hovering over one of the minimap buttons and even click it to open Odditown Map centered to said coordinates.

Yes, I know this. That's not bearing information.

I guess my original post wasn't clear. I'll go edit it.

[Granger]

Given how parties work regarding markers I guess the questgivers 'move' every now and then to update any arrows pointing at them.

My best guess to get the most precise bearing would be to freshly switch to the quest in question while standing still and record the direction then, without moving.

[synntax33]

If I understand you correctly, you are asking what is the best way to head in the approximate direction of the quest marker, I use the Ortho cam and rotate the cameraso that my hearthling is headed right for it, and look at the arrow on the mini map to decide what the bearing is. If I read you correctly.

[qoonpooka]

Given how parties work regarding markers I guess the questgivers 'move' every now and then to update any arrows pointing at them.

My best guess to get the most precise bearing would be to freshly switch to the quest in question while standing still and record the direction then, without moving.

Hm. That's an interesting idea. I'll combine it with this one too:

If I understand you correctly, you are asking what is the best way to head in the approximate direction of the quest marker, I use the Ortho cam and rotate the cameraso that my hearthling is headed right for it, and look at the arrow on the mini map to decide what the bearing is. If I read you correctly.

I'll try this for a few quests and let you know what the accuracy is.