UA or MC?

[WESKERBOY]

Well thats the point wich one Is better and y? Are there anyone who Is purely UA? And how you make It work.

[MadNomad]

for example good combat stances, like bloodlust or oak stance, are UA dependent

opening making attacks like punch or flex or KITO also depend on UA

but just have a look at various moves and figure out what suits you best

ask yourself - is it better to stack a lot more points and use cleave only, or is it better to raise opening with KITO first? does MC even matter for that particular cleave?

maybe MC is good for some specific strategies, like sideswipe/quick barrage spam, but then again, does it make other good moves useless?

And how you make It work.

I have no idea what you meant with this one

[WESKERBOY]

for example good combat stances, like bloodlust or oak stance, are UA dependent

opening making attacks like punch or flex or KITO also depend on UA

but just have a look at various moves and figure out what suits you best

ask yourself - is it better to stack a lot more points and use cleave only, or is it better to raise opening with KITO first? does MC even matter for that particular cleave?

maybe MC is good for some specific strategies, like sideswipe/quick barrage spam, but then again, does it make other good moves useless?

And how you make It work.

I have no idea what you meant with this one

For the last thing i meant "how u make UA work?"
Last world i was a Parry,QB/cleave player, now I intend to go UA but dont know exactly how to make damage, I know about openings but looking at UA attacks dont know on what their damage rely on, on the other hand MC damage relys on weapons attack

[vatas]

http://ringofbrodgar.com/wiki/Combat_moves

Each UA attack has a specific a base damage, MC moves use weapon damage (and some modify it, all can be seen in link above.)

Since the UA/MC skill only affects attack WEIGHT when attacking, you could run around with 1000 UA and 1 MC and use Uppercut to create 50 yellow opening -> Sideswipe spam quite effectively, at least in PvE.

I'm under impression that usually people do increase their MC to something like 200 because it's relatively cheap for a dedicated player and allows the MC moves if not create, then maintain the opening.

[MightySheep]

its been a while since I played but I think both options are viable

MC was a million times stronger in early world when there was no B12s and everyone running crappy armour. The meta was to just spam sting with spears.

now I think it is back to the usual old Flex/KITO into Cleave meta which is best for UA. however MC players running quick barrage and shit into cleave which also works

a lot of people raised both stats this world because of change where everyones stats get effectively equalized.

If youre legit trying to figure out what to raise at this point in world id recommend raise only 1 stat and probably UA. If youre a pleb hermit then just raise MC only with spear.

[WESKERBOY]

Im an hermit im fact. Well then ill try full UA

[vatas]

If someone wants to try the spear hermit route:

You will need some non-MC way of killing animals (including assisting player creating opening* or archery) to get moves that actually use the spear.

With 15 UA and same amount of AGI you should be able to slowly kill bats by keeping your openings under 30 and spamming punch**. If you hold Spear in your hands while doing this, there is a possibility to learn attack called "Full Circle" that currently can be used with a spears, since it requires "any melee weapon." For information about how to acquire Quick Barrage or Sting, see http://ringofbrodgar.com/wiki/Combat_moves

Note that other players can create http://ringofbrodgar.com/wiki/Combat_Instructions that when placed in your study window, increases chances to gain relevant move drastically, you should only need to kill 2-3 eligible animals before receiving it.

*You need to land killing blow to discover a move. Possibly the best move for assisting is "Low Blow" which creates Green Opening so that the assisted player's punches will go through.

**or left hook, but you really need to commit into either of them, using both will not synergize, your attacks are split between creating two different openings.

[WESKERBOY]

I have 20agi/25 UA and i dont know y even ants attack faster than me, i have to run all the time, More agi faster move applies?

[vatas]

I have 20agi/25 UA and i dont know y even ants attack faster than me, i have to run all the time, More agi faster move applies?

I completely forgot about ants. Their attack may simply have really low base cooldown, as long as you do more opening than them you should be fine.

[MagicManICT]

I have 20agi/25 UA and i dont know y even ants attack faster than me, i have to run all the time, More agi faster move applies?

Ants have 7ish UA and about 10 agi. Yes, they are a faster base attack speed, but pretty weak relative to player attacks. You should be able to kill them easily just standing your ground and keeping openings down one at a time, or kite them so you don't get hit as often.

Yes, attack speeds are based on your agility as a ratio of the attacker vs the defender. I don't recall if this was affected by the combat equalization changes, and just didn't paid close enough attention when I was playing early in the world.