Unofficial Game Time Outline & Answers/Guide

[Justin_Nevermind]

I've got a question, that hasn't been covered or I'm missing something or I'm just plain old dumb.

If you buy a sub or activate a token, is it hours added to your account? As in you can stay online for lets say a month as an example, and the hours on your account won't be ticking down if you're not online? Or is it a normal one month play as much as you want, but when 30 days are over, you need to pay more, no matter how much you've been playing?

Thanks for information. Again sorry if this has been covered before, I'm so sleepy.

[Lunarius_Haberdash]

i still got questions:

1. gametime tokens for $15
so they give me about 720 hours of play time andi can play 300h this month and 300 next month ??

2. if i got ~50 hours of play time and make subsciption
what will be with my 50 hours ? they will freeze and be spent after sub. ends ??

My understanding re:

#1 - No, they work like subscriptions once you use the time. On the other hand, this is incredibly dumb IMO, and they should consider restructuring this to 'time spent playing'

#2 - Yep, you can't play when your sub runs out until you resub or buy time.

[MagicManICT]

Pretty sure I saw the same statement and it is just a 30 day sub for the token, but can't find the quote right now. I'm trying to get clarification on it to be 100% sure.

Also got this from jorb for those curious about subscriptions and server down time:

Yes but if I am paying a monthly subscription and the server goes down one night for the entire night because you're in bed that is not okay. If it happens on a regular basis that's even worse. You need to devise a method or find someone else that can be awake during those hours.

Again, server downtime is never subtracted from your sub time. Your sub only ticks while the server is up.

And good work posting this. Hopefully we'll get some input for official answers and feedback from jorb or loftar soon.

[painhertz]

i still got questions:

1. gametime tokens for $15
so they give me about 720 hours of play time andi can play 300h this month and 300 next month ??

2. if i got ~50 hours of play time and make subsciption
what will be with my 50 hours ? they will freeze and be spent after sub. ends ??

1. No. You can play as much as you want for one month, you aren't buying time, you are buying a subscription.

2. I assume so.

[An_Infinity_of_War]

I've got a question, that hasn't been covered or I'm missing something or I'm just plain old dumb.

If you buy a sub or activate a token, is it hours added to your account? As in you can stay online for lets say a month as an example, and the hours on your account won't be ticking down if you're not online? Or is it a normal one month play as much as you want, but when 30 days are over, you need to pay more, no matter how much you've been playing?

Thanks for information. Again sorry if this has been covered before, I'm so sleepy.

Sorry about the wait. Shit happens like needing to sleep. Onto business.

From the common understanding your account will have an entire month of unlimited playtime added to it; though this is an entire month of server uptime. That means when the server is down your sub is not used until it goes back online; letting you keep the downtime. Once the sub time is up it will then begin to use your game time as normal. Basically you keep your gametime until the end of the sub.

[An_Infinity_of_War]

I'd like to see their rationale for their pricing scheme.

How many $10 subs do they expect to acquire?

How many of each donation system are they counting on?

Because they seem too smart to have come up with these dollar amounts out of thin air.

I would wager that at $5 a month, they would make more money than at $10, as they would have over double the paid players at the lower funding amount. Why do I think this way? First, it's a self-declared Alpha state, as stated on their About page:

"Haven and Hearth is currently in what we consider alpha status. In practice, this means that we have most of the core functionalities in place, those crucial gimmicks and widgets that allow the game to run and people to connect and play. However, much of the higher-level functionality is either missing or only partially implemented. Also, because some functionality is partially implemented, the persistent data in the game can be rather unstable. For example, we might have to remove the maps from time to time when we implement a new map generator."

Second, it's a browser game. It's not a AAA title, nor even a A title. $15 for WoW, f2p for EQ2, f2p for Planetside 2, p2w for damn near all the asian MMO's, etc. No other MMO I know limits actual playtime like this, but I mostly know only the majors.

Arguments listed: If you can afford a PC, you can afford to play this game, cheapass!!! Well, it's not about what I CAN afford, it's what I feel my money is worth. A $10 crashing, buggy alpha browser game? I'm not there yet.

Plus, going from f2p to a solid fee as if this was a MMORPG (yes, I'm saying this is NOT a Massive MMO), is a bit of a steep hill for a lot of players to climb.

Only time will tell of they can maintain a good base of subs at the $10 price, or a good clip of donations.

My first impressions are that they'd be better served with quantity vs quality tho.

Now to figure out why the hell I made a stone axe that can't do a damn thing...

I'll start by saying this thread is for answering questions about the system people do not understand; not for stating opinions. I can't read the mind of Jorb & Loftar, go ask them yourself. Coming here and stating your beliefs with no question is not going to help anyone. Go to the Critical forum, they have a mega thread for bitching there. Not here.

[Sevenless]

i still got questions:

1. gametime tokens for $15
so they give me about 720 hours of play time andi can play 300h this month and 300 next month ??

2. if i got ~50 hours of play time and make subsciption
what will be with my 50 hours ? they will freeze and be spent after sub. ends ??

Gametime is a bad name for it. More like tradeable 1 month subscription coin (unlimited play for 30 days).

Can't answer number two though.

[Phaen]

Does the playtime from one month roll over into the next?
Does the 24 hrs/mo playtime get produced during subbed months?
Would the following payment scheme be possible?

- verified account ($15)
- bronze subscription every other month ($10)
- 48 hrs playtime on the unsubscribed months because the playtime from the subscribed month rolled over (free)

[MagicManICT]

Does the playtime from one month roll over into the next?

No. You are only topped off to the amount of play time you get per month--12 or 24.

As for the rest, I believe the second question you had is very similar to the one just above about free time suspending during a subscription period.

Still, you might be able to take advantage of some free hours to squeeze in extra time, but in reality, for those who know they're into Haven for the long haul, the 12 month purchase really is the way to go at only $6 per month. There's no way most people are going to squeeze that many extra days out of the free time over a year.

WTB lifetime sub.

I'll start by saying this thread is for answering questions about the system people do not understand; not for stating opinions.

yes, let's keep How Do I? to help level questions. Opinion can and should go to Critiques & Ideas.

[An_Infinity_of_War]

Updated again. This time on how game time items work.

Anyone who buys these things feel free to post the information here so I can update the guide & credit you. I'd love to buy all of it myself but my beer making hobby drains most of my money.