Metallurgic Skills

[Sevenless]

That's why. You got the boosted results for both sets because who mines it is the only time the skills are applied for the chance for ore to produce a bar.

The same results I received even before these skills have been added.

There's some hefty RNG involved, but my personal experience disagrees. Iron ochre used to average 1 bar per smelter, Heavy earth ~0.5. Now Ochre gives ~2 bars per smelter full and HE gives ~1.

It's not exactly an intensely massive boost, but Ochre is a middle/low bar producing ore. Stuff like bloodstone before the update used to give 4-5 bars per smelter, and now I'd guess gives 6-7.

[Garfy]

The increase per skill isn't huge, and your sample size is small.

My results from before skills were as follows.
Heavy Earth: 450 ore, 11 bars. I noticed an average of 0.5-1 bars per smelter full (1 bar per 2 full smelters). I'd estimate a 1-2% chance per ore of a bar.
Iron Ochre: 300ish ore, 14ish bars. I noticed an average of 1-2 bars per smelter full. I'd estimate a 4-8% chance per ore of a bar.

My results with all skills except the 150k LP skill.
Heavy Earth: 240 ore, 12 bars. I noticed an average of 1-2 bar per smelter full. I'd estimate a 2-4% chance per ore of a bar.
Iron Ochre: 230 ore, 27 bars. I noticed an average of 2-4 bars per smelter full. I'd estimate a 10-15% chance per ore of a bar.

That is still a small sample size, but once the skills were implemented, we immediately began noticing a massive increase in the amount of iron we were getting from ores. It practically doubled.

[TeckXKnight]

Heavy Earth: 240 ore, 12 bars. I noticed an average of 1-2 bar per smelter full. I'd estimate a 2-4% chance per ore of a bar.
Iron Ochre: 230 ore, 27 bars. I noticed an average of 2-4 bars per smelter full. I'd estimate a 10-15% chance per ore of a bar.

Let me add some numbers.
1125 HE yielded roughly a 4% smelt success rate with the new skills. Or roughly 1 bar per full smelter.
450 IO yielded roughly a 10% smelt success rate with the new skills. Or roughly 5 bars per 2 full smelters.

[Sevenless]

And tin is now absolutely retarded (in an amazing way). I got something like 10-12 bars per smelt average over 4 smelter loads XD

[Garfy]

And tin is now absolutely retarded (in an amazing way). I got something like 10-12 bars per smelt average over 4 smelter loads XD

If you want to see insane, check out chalcopyrite. It gives a mixture of iron and copper (75% iron, 25% copper I'd say). With no skills I'd get 12+ bars from a smelter full.

Shame I've not found any veins of it, only boulders. It's definitely one of the best ores in terms of quantities of metal it gives.

[Sevenless]

And tin is now absolutely retarded (in an amazing way). I got something like 10-12 bars per smelt average over 4 smelter loads XD

If you want to see insane, check out chalcopyrite. It gives a mixture of iron and copper (75% iron, 25% copper I'd say). With no skills I'd get 12+ bars from a smelter full.

Shame I've not found any veins of it, only boulders. It's definitely one of the best ores in terms of quantities of metal it gives.

Weird, full skills and I'm only getting 3 bars per smelter load off chalco...

Edit: full as in missing 150k one.

[Turtlesir]

i've also only gotten about 4 bars per smelt of chalcopyrite.

[Darruin]

Before the update I got 4 cast iron from 9 heavy earth. Got really lucky?

[TeckXKnight]

Before the update I got 4 cast iron from 9 heavy earth. Got really lucky?

Yes, outliers always exist. =)

[LaserSaysPew]

IO prepatch: 845 - 44 bars - 5,2%
IO without Artifice only: 900 - 90 bars - 10%
IO with Art: 225 - 33 - 14,67% (I guess it's a bit lower since my first 50 ore gave me 12 bars)