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Re: UA Hunting

Postby Strandmullen » Mon Oct 05, 2015 4:30 pm

TeckXKnight wrote:They can have 2,000 UAC and you could have 1, but since combat delta caps at 50% for the weaker person and 200% for the stronger person you will always be able to break half of a defense bar on them per attack and they can only break 2 defense bars on you per attack.

loftar wrote:It should be noted, however, that there's no actual "cap" -- having better stats always improve the delta. It just has very harshly diminishing returns.

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Re: UA Hunting

Postby TeckXKnight » Mon Oct 05, 2015 4:33 pm

The returns diminish beyond recognizably very rapidly. Seriously, spar with a friend and see how much defense 1 MC breaks off of their 100 UAC. Like 55% of their defense bar will be gone.
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Re: UA Hunting

Postby Strandmullen » Mon Oct 05, 2015 5:32 pm

TeckXKnight wrote:The returns diminish beyond recognizably very rapidly. Seriously, spar with a friend and see how much defense 1 MC breaks off of their 100 UAC. Like 55% of their defense bar will be gone.

I wish I could, I have no friends ;(
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Re: UA Hunting

Postby lordrio » Mon Oct 05, 2015 5:37 pm

I keep seeing people keep saying you should use chop with sword in a unarmed combat.

Do you wield it when you want to chop or wield it at the start of the combat? I'm thought you need both hand empty for Unarmed blocks and attack to be efficient, or am I wrong?
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Re: UA Hunting

Postby pedorlee » Mon Oct 05, 2015 5:37 pm

TeckXKnight wrote:
pedorlee wrote:Everyfucking body here is able to kill bears with 5 ua. I kill bats with 20 ua and no armor, and even blocking them and shit i barely survive those encounters. You must fight with max health and armor and shit.
I'm still waiting some normal person to post a guide about how to fight without beeing a pvp god in legacy...

Maintain distance and stack defenses. Quick Dodge + Watch Its Moves + another green/blue defense will soak up 1 hit at a minimum. Use distance between yourself and your opponent to get through your cooldowns so you can engage them with all of your defenses ready to go as well as an attack.

They can have 2,000 UAC and you could have 1, but since combat delta caps at 50% for the weaker person and 200% for the stronger person you will always be able to break half of a defense bar on them per attack and they can only break 2 defense bars on you per attack.

Try to hit colors it's not defending against. If the animal has a blue/green defense then use moves like Knock Its Teeth Out. If it's maintaining Yellow/Red then use Punch or Chop. If its using a 4-way defense then use Punch twice to break it and continue.

Quick dodge whenever your Quick Dodge breaks and Watch its Moves when you can as well.

Even as the underdog you can probably kill deer without too much trouble but you'll end up taking damage. Boar are even easier as you can just switch to run speed and wait for their defenses to drop before getting free hits on them, then running away when your defenses break.

Leather Armor will save your life.


Thanks teck.
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Re: UA Hunting

Postby TeckXKnight » Mon Oct 05, 2015 5:42 pm

lordrio wrote:I keep seeing people keep saying you should use chop with sword in a unarmed combat.

Do you wield it when you want to chop or wield it at the start of the combat? I'm thought you need both hand empty for Unarmed blocks and attack to be efficient, or am I wrong?

You don't need any hands free to use unarmed moves and defenses. Just go into the fight with a sword in your hand. In fact, carry a sword with you everywhere if you're not double t-sack foraging.
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Re: UA Hunting

Postby fuinharlz » Mon Oct 05, 2015 6:18 pm

TeckXKnight wrote:
lordrio wrote:I keep seeing people keep saying you should use chop with sword in a unarmed combat.

Do you wield it when you want to chop or wield it at the start of the combat? I'm thought you need both hand empty for Unarmed blocks and attack to be efficient, or am I wrong?

You don't need any hands free to use unarmed moves and defenses. Just go into the fight with a sword in your hand. In fact, carry a sword with you everywhere if you're not double t-sack foraging.


From the list of things I need: a DAMN SWORD :P (and discovery of metal, because i can't find ores anywhere :P)

And, for those willing to fight, as mentioned: leather armor can save your life! Dosen't matter if you'r planing for mining, hunting, wandering, always use at least leather armor, and you'll save toons of healing time later on :lol:
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Re: UA Hunting

Postby Strandmullen » Mon Oct 05, 2015 6:39 pm

fuinharlz wrote:And, for those willing to fight, as mentioned: leather armor can save your life! Dosen't matter if you'r planing for mining, hunting, wandering, always use at least leather armor, and you'll save toons of healing time later on :lol:

How does leather armor help when mining? Every time I've gotten a cave in all my SHP has been depleted and no HHP damage taken.
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Re: UA Hunting

Postby fuinharlz » Mon Oct 05, 2015 6:48 pm

Strandmullen wrote:
fuinharlz wrote:And, for those willing to fight, as mentioned: leather armor can save your life! Dosen't matter if you'r planing for mining, hunting, wandering, always use at least leather armor, and you'll save toons of healing time later on :lol:

How does leather armor help when mining? Every time I've gotten a cave in all my SHP has been depleted and no HHP damage taken.


caves filled with bats
Bats aggro on you
Leather armor helps A LOT on soaking damage from pesky bats while you run screaming for your life

THIS is how leather armor helps miners :P
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