Do I need this to be good with a Bow?

[Jalpha]

It depends on a lot of things. I found bow hunting rather frustrating below ~60 MM but it was possible at much lower values. It just takes a lot longer to aim and animals move around a lot.

The main thing about hunting with bows is that you kind of want to one shot so you don't have to chase stuff. Damage is dependent upon your bow and arrows sub value and now also perception. But if you can tank a few hits you can throw a few punches at a boar and then follow up with an arrow to one-shot without having a chase.

[NeoBasilisk]

Yes, I was reading that. I might be able to understand it.

Thanks lol.

It's just a different way of calculating averages.
The "normal" way is to add the two numbers together and divide by 2. The result is exactly between the two numbers. This is also known as the arithmetic mean.

With a geometric mean, you multiply the two numbers together and then take the square root.

So for the sake of comparison, let's use 10 and 40.

Arithmetic mean: (10 + 40) / 2 = 25
Geometric mean: square root of (10 * 40) = 20

So you can see that the practical difference of a geometric mean vs the standard arithmetic mean is that the result will be weighted more heavily by the lower number than with a standard average.

[abt79]

It works as most of these things do; the "effective value" used for damage calculation is the geometric mean of your Perception and the weapon's Substance.

Oh really?

Yay, all this perception means something now, I'm gonna have to go try this out

[pedorlee]

It works as most of these things do; the "effective value" used for damage calculation is the geometric mean of your Perception and the weapon's Substance.

[sabinati]

It works as most of these things do; the "effective value" used for damage calculation is the geometric mean of your Perception and the weapon's Substance.

so with 9000 perception and 100 substance bow, the effective value for damage calculation is 948? same for slings and spears?

[MagicManICT]

Just to help me out some more. What kinds of food provide that skill?

http://ringofbrodgar.com/wiki/FEP_Table
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

You can sort by the specific attribute you're looking for to find foods that provide it. The whole table can be a bit overwhelming until you get experienced at the game as it doesn't provide the recipes. The Google doc has nearly all the information. The wiki has been slow to get updated this world.

For easier early foods, you have ants (Aphids, Ant Queen, though better to use her as a curio), fish (Plaice, Perch, Trout, Tench, Carp, Fishy Eyeball), frogs (Grilled Frog Legs), and nuts and berries (Hazelnut, Blackberries, Elderberries). If you have a farm going, get carrots.

so with 9000 perception

Does anyone have a stat this high?

[sabinati]

what, you don't have 9000 in stats yet? casual

[Jalpha]

With a geometric mean, you multiply the two numbers together and then take the square root.

Thanks heaps. Wikipedia was giving me the impression that I needed to first understand the secrets of the universe before I could calculate a geometric mean.

[Archiplex]

Here's a good thread to look at, although damage values are now replaced by sqrt(perc*substance) instead of just substance.

viewtopic.php?f=48&t=45729


I can personally hunt most animals just fine at 10MM with 40q/40q (and i guess now 40 perc).

Others might want something like 50mm first

[Kalacia]

I feel inadequate now that i'm only on 10 for all the required stats and quality.

its a long hard road if you want to be over 9000