How to prank village members(exploit)

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Re: How to prank village members

Postby shadyg0d » Thu Aug 11, 2016 11:27 pm

Granger wrote:
shadyg0d wrote:Now just keep in mind it does not work with your own barter stand. I tested it it and it does indeed detect theft if you use your own stand.

Did you test it with your stand and 3rd party character acting as buyer?

You mean a 3rd party use my stand to steal from a 4th party?

No but I doubt that works. I think each stand is like a copy of the player who owns it, and when it sell items it is as if the owner removed them. If that is possible then it definitely needs to be fixed ASAP though. I don't have a character to test it any more.
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Re: How to prank village members(exploit)

Postby zebratul » Fri Aug 12, 2016 10:07 am

Granger wrote:So your point is that you can work around the visitor debuff from the pclaim this way?


This cannot be used to bypass your target's visitor debuff on a Pclaim, since it stops you from committing any crimes.
Which means you cannot open any containers to drop green selling hands to, because that would a trespassing crime.

however, if trespassing is, for some reason, allowed on the Pclaim, it might be possible to abuse. Still, you have to obtain the giving and taking hands from the owner, which is indeed falls more into a social engineering category.
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Re: How to prank village members(exploit)

Postby newaccountlol » Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:05 pm

Bumping because I had the chance to try this recently and it worked flawlessly. I decided not to steal anything but successfully demonstrated to the victim what they had allowed me set up. Got peacefully kicked from village after that (lol)

The village had a p claim in the center but it extended way too far past the inner palisade and so outer-members were always running into it when going about their daily business. So reasonably, trespassing was enabled by default. They assumed this was not an issue because they were protected by visitor buff.

I basically convinced the victim I knew nothing about barter stands and had him help me "experiment" with them. I also made up some shit about a "grand magic trick" that I was trying to achieve with the barter stands to justify them being there in the first place. I probably should have left that part out but luckily they became intrigued rather than suspicious.

He claimed all 5 barter stands and set them to buy sticks and gave me all the hands. It gave me 25 barter slots IIRC, meaning I could completely empty a total of 25 cupboards. A single cupboard could contain a villages' most important assets.

It's easy for people to say they would never fall for this but there are millions of ways this could play out in different circumstances, if you use your imagination.

Even if somebody suspects I'm doing something shady when setting it up they would never imagine what it's actually capable of unless they are also a hacker-minded person. Everyone thinks the only way to bypass visitor is with siege so the thought of me getting into their vault never even crosses their mind. I can see this working against anyone under the right circumstances. Even the most gullible people do not deserve this.

It might be social engineering but it's based on false assumptions about game mechanics and that's the devs/wiki/game's fault for giving them that false sense of security.

100% an exploit and needs to be fixed ASAP
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Re: How to prank village members(exploit)

Postby maze » Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:50 pm

so getting someone to give you there sell/buy hands.
that's the main part of all this?

if so it's not an exploit. it's people being dumb.
Always lock up your house that has the buy and sell hands.
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Re: How to prank village members(exploit)

Postby blank » Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:57 pm

lmfao, so thats why Ghandhi wanted my hands XD
good try..
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