Village claim inside a mine and charter stone.

[Kaios]

If your kingdom spreads from l5 to upper-level - then what is the difference which direction it was created (from upper to bottom or vise versa)? If you want to create just l5 kingdom - it won't be viable anyway - no food/wood source..

That's exactly why there's a difference, starting a Kingdom from the underground and extending it up to the ground level would be a viable option but simply having the claim remain only underground and on the level you put it on if that level happens to be the very bottom is in fact useless with how the mechanics currently work. Plus I'd argue an L5 placed Kingdom is much more secure than the one placed above ground.

Just saying underground kingdoms can/should be a viable thing, but should be limited to being underground, as they are right now.

I agree they should be a thing but I don't agree they should only be limited to underground if you build it there. Extending cairns over a large underground area is difficult and essentially worthless since there are very few fully underground-based settlements, hearthfires or resources that would provide a lore event. I have seen salt, guano, geysers and cave organs all on underground levels but they are very hard to come by.

[Enjoyment]

Plus I'd argue an L5 placed Kingdom is much more secure than the one placed above ground.

Just wanted you to said that. Wanna hide your frigthened pussy as deep as you can? C'mon, man grow some balls, what happened to you?

[Kaios]

Yes actually there should be 100 more levels so I can go to the very bottom and hide forever.

No, I just think it would be cool to be able build it underground and extend it above. I already asked about this awhile ago and after finding out how it worked built my Kingdom above ground already. Not sure where that sudden hostility came from but don't start with me boy cuz u don't even know what you're talking about.

[Enjoyment]

Yes actually there should be 100 more levels so I can go to the very bottom and hide forever.

No, I just think it would be cool to be able build it underground and extend it above. I already asked about this awhile ago and after finding out how it worked built my Kingdom above ground already. Not sure where that sudden hostility came from but don't start with me boy cuz u don't even know what you're talking about.

If you're building a minehole to L5 -I've bet you already have a vclaim on your above-level... So extending it to the bottom seems more logical, than ruining it and start to exand once more time from the bottom. And the kingdom realm is based on vclaim so it's obvoiusly connected. And my "hostility" is based on all yours shitty crying post and your "war" with LadyGoo biegn awile for sometime. You were a good proud man... I wish you can accept you're not a mod anymore and go back to your past posting quality... Have a nice day, bro...

[Kaios]

This is my past posting quality you dumbass, I'm allowed to express my opinion on any given subject I like and I have no shame or regret in doing so in all areas I comment on. I'm in this thread providing mechanical information and insightful feedback, you're in this thread trying to shit on me. Stfu.

[Jacobian123]

Putting a kingdom on an underground level and extending it to above ground is exactly the reason why you can't have underground villages extending to the surface. Too many people would abuse this and just make it 100x harder to actually siege the damn thing. We already have layered villages, no need to add to the extra bullshit we have to go through, satan.

Just saying underground kingdoms can/should be a viable thing, but should be limited to being underground, as they are right now.

Emm, are you sure you were saying that?
'Cause, I assume you've posted an Entrance to Morria from Tolkien's sagas? And it is situated under the sky on ground level...

It is an entrance, yes. A very elaborate gatehouse, if you will, but the entire kingdom is below ground, not above. And it's Erebor, not Moria.

[Kaios]

Putting a kingdom on an underground level and extending it to above ground is exactly the reason why you can't have underground villages extending to the surface. Too many people would abuse this and just make it 100x harder to actually siege the damn thing.

It's just the locating and building mineholes down that is that hardest part imo, the sieging itself is not that difficult depending on the layout.

I agree with you though, I had said before that if there were no plans to allow extending from below to above then I don't think building a Kingdom underground should even be an allowable option since, honestly, it would be a totally fruitless endeavour.