How to fight bats.

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Re: How to fight bats.

Postby Ysh » Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:37 pm

spavaloo wrote:
linkfanpc wrote:While wearing it bats don't attack you unless you aggro them first.


Wait, seriously?

I know I put that forth as one of the properties when I suggested the bat cape, but I didn't think it was actually implemented.

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Re: How to fight bats.

Postby fuinharlz » Thu Apr 14, 2016 7:23 pm

WIth 25 agi and 20 UA you don't need armor... use quick dodge and punch... you just need to put jump on when they start gathering IP as their yellow attack uses IP. Whem if you notice they've hit your yellow defense... go full offensive, since the cooldown on their yellow attack is high!
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Re: How to fight bats.

Postby StaggerNight » Thu Apr 14, 2016 7:49 pm

Its really simple, The combat system is easy to understand in a different perspective. Its a game of matching cards. They pull up a move that yellow/blue and you use jump and sidestep which are yellow and blue which counters it and you will take about 1 - 0 damage with no armor ( if your fighting a bat ) Always have as much of different colors as possible when trying to attack to avoid as much damage as possible. Thats the basics. Heck, even the fighting sets you make are called decks. Its a card game :D



Correct me if i said anything wrong

Ive done very little combat and learned how to use it yesterday :D
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Re: How to fight bats.

Postby fuinharlz » Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:24 am

StaggerNight wrote:Its really simple, The combat system is easy to understand in a different perspective. Its a game of matching cards. They pull up a move that yellow/blue and you use jump and sidestep which are yellow and blue which counters it and you will take about 1 - 0 damage with no armor ( if your fighting a bat ) Always have as much of different colors as possible when trying to attack to avoid as much damage as possible. Thats the basics. Heck, even the fighting sets you make are called decks. Its a card game :D



Correct me if i said anything wrong

Ive done very little combat and learned how to use it yesterday :D


Actually bats have 2 attacks, one that can hit for blue AND green (so if you have a green def it's already enough to stop it) and one that hits for yellow. This is why you don't need sidestep, as quick dodge alone can counter the basic attack bats have, and jump will block the yellow one. Sure you can use sidestep to block the base attack, but considering quick dodge has a lower cooldown and a larger duration time, it's preferable! QUck dodge is 20 cooldown 300 duration, sidestep 35 cooldown 200 duration. And with 20UA alone your quick dodge can solo-block the basic attacks, and your jump can solo-block the special attack, so you take 0 damage even without armor.
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Re: How to fight bats.

Postby linkfanpc » Fri Apr 15, 2016 11:03 pm

spavaloo wrote:
linkfanpc wrote:While wearing it bats don't attack you unless you aggro them first.


Wait, seriously?

I know I put that forth as one of the properties when I suggested the bat cape, but I didn't think it was actually implemented.


Yeah. It's extremely useful for mining and killing more bats. You can actually chase them down because you can sprint straight into a bat and it doesn't care.
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Re: How to fight bats.

Postby smileyguy4you » Fri Apr 15, 2016 11:16 pm

linkfanpc wrote:
spavaloo wrote:
linkfanpc wrote:While wearing it bats don't attack you unless you aggro them first.


Wait, seriously?

I know I put that forth as one of the properties when I suggested the bat cape, but I didn't think it was actually implemented.


Yeah. It's extremely useful for mining and killing more bats. You can actually chase them down because you can sprint straight into a bat and it doesn't care.


and you can check their quality b4 fighting them ;)
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Re: How to fight bats.

Postby Thedrah » Sun Apr 17, 2016 12:30 pm

bats seem to only get ip by actually getting through your defenses, if you keep quick dodge up they don't appear to gain any ip
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Re: How to fight bats.

Postby Granger » Sun Apr 17, 2016 1:49 pm

fuinharlz wrote:Actually bats have 2 attacks, one that can hit for blue AND green (so if you have a green def it's already enough to stop it) and one that hits for yellow. This is why you don't need sidestep, as quick dodge alone can counter the basic attack bats have, and jump will block the yellow one. Sure you can use sidestep to block the base attack, but considering quick dodge has a lower cooldown and a larger duration time, it's preferable! QUck dodge is 20 cooldown 300 duration, sidestep 35 cooldown 200 duration. And with 20UA alone your quick dodge can solo-block the basic attacks, and your jump can solo-block the special attack, so you take 0 damage even without armor.


Nevertheless, to start fighting them with both quick dodge and sidestep is the smarter way - especially when you're new to the combat system.

PS: you don't want bats to get IP in case they can break through a single defense in one hit, since then their yellow attack will hurt.
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Re: How to fight bats.

Postby Gloosx_inn » Mon Apr 18, 2016 8:01 am

How much hitpoints do they have?
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Re: How to fight bats.

Postby Enjoyment » Mon Apr 18, 2016 4:29 pm

Gloosx_inn wrote:How much hitpoints do they have?

Emm... like 100 hp? Never saw more than 73 dealed damage, before they start fleeing and can be one-shoted by any punch... Maybe even 90...
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