Cameras: bad or ortho? discuss!

[shubla]

or just go little bit left and right and use your brains. Takes like 5 seconds

[NOOBY93]

Unless someone finds clicking further more useful than the quest workaround is a detriment in which case the problem of not being able to pan in standard camera outweighs the problem of the quest bug with an extremely simple quick and easy workaround making it a matter of preference and not objectivity. Just because you prefer something doesn't mean it's objectively better.

Objectivity has nothing to do with whether or not someone finds something useful. Objectivity isn't a matter of preference. Having a component of the game not work is objectively worse than having it work. That's just indisputable, IE not a matter of opinion.

No one is making the argument that at the end of the day choosing one camera over the other isn't a matter of preference.

Cam ortho is objectively worse than cam bad in the following aspects:
- it's extremely hard to navigate the steepest mountains, to the point of being broken, due to the fixed perspective.
- its zoom out is limited. This caused many custom clients to allow further zoom out like cam bad has, but is not a cam ortho functionality.
- estimating distance and seeing certain items is much more difficult without a bird's eye view

As we all know, these points don't objectively make one better than the other. Please attention whore/troll somewhere else retard.

Thank you

[Burinn]

Cam ortho is objectively worse than cam bad in the following aspects:
- it's extremely hard to navigate the steepest mountains, to the point of being broken, due to the fixed perspective.
- its zoom out is limited. This caused many custom clients to allow further zoom out like cam bad has, but is not a cam ortho functionality.
- estimating distance and seeing certain items is much more difficult without a bird's eye view

Let me know when any of those things are quantifiable worse than a mechanic not working at all and people, allegedly, wasting hours of their time running in the wrong direction. Just because the other option has objective problems as well doesn't mean one isn't worse than the other. Again. At the end of the day it's up to personal preference which you use but I don't know how you can possibly any of those things, or those things together, are worse than not knowing where your quest objective is. Which is what I said before. No where in this thread have I said ortho doesn't have its own problems.

Please attention whore/troll somewhere else retard.

Thanks. Glad we're having some real constructive dialogue.

[Teleskop]

Please attention whore/troll somewhere else retard.

ooooooo rekt

[MagicManICT]

Doing a bit of forum magic here. Give me about 5 minutes and this will be open again. Sorry for any inconvenience.

Ok, apologies for that. I renamed the thread to something more appropriate. I copied Nooby's post over to the Pro-tips thread so it'll be there without all the clutter. It was the sanest solution I could think of so people could see this discussion and maybe read and chime in instead of seeing "quest direction" and maybe skip over the other points brought up.

[twincannon]

Thanks. Glad we're having some real constructive dialogue.

as a long time lurker I'm finally compelled to ask this question... is it actually physically possible for you to not shit up every thread you post in? Or is that just a universal constant.